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Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by hackmiester »

apatheticonion wrote: post #72

Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Surely, given the Linux native file system is open source, adding the ability to mount ext4 partitions natively should be something people can add to Windows? I have seen third party…

> I think exfat has recently gained support in all three platforms but it's not reliable for an internal hard drive (I think?).

I've been doing this for a few years now. It just doesn't support some stuff, like permissions, but for just a pile of files, it's fine.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by hyperdimension »

apatheticonion wrote: post #72

Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Surely, given the Linux native file system is open source, adding the ability to mount ext4 partitions natively should be something people can add to Windows? I have seen third party…

To your last point: try UFS! I use it for cross-platform flash drives. Better than FAT32, anyway.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by watmough »

dale_glass wrote: post #73
apatheticonion wrote: post #72

Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Surely, given the Linux native file system is open source, adding the ability to mount ext4 partitions natively should be something people can add to Windows? I have seen third party…

> Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Such projects have long existed, but I suspect there's a lack of interest. It's a difficult technical problem with a narrow usage niche. You need somebody who wants both Windows an…

Back in the day, and I mean like mid-late 90's, you could actually install the Linux kernel, files etc., straight onto a Windows FAT partition and boot into it.

Not exactly what was being asked for, but a weird old fact I'd forgotten about.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by watmough »

jwrallie wrote: post #64
josephcsible wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder which direction causes more breakage for the non-native OS.

I think getting around permissions would be an issue but when I was starting on Linux I remember there was a way to install to Fat32 inside a directory in parallel with Windows 95. The distro was called Phat, so the concept is not exactly new.

Yep, just posted about this. Late 90's right?

I think it was Ygdrassil, or maybe a free distro off of a CD. Great investment of time as it got me into the oilfield doing tech support. Running Rocky 8 on a P1 Gen4 now, so come a long way from my 486/Dx2.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by gfody »

viraptor wrote: post #80
apatheticonion wrote: post #72

Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Surely, given the Linux native file system is open source, adding the ability to mount ext4 partitions natively should be something people can add to Windows? I have seen third party…

Paragon has been doing it for quite a while. You just need to pay extra. https://www.paragon-software.com/business/extfs-for-windows/

contact Sales for a quote. I guess the price depends on how many files you plan on storing?

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by kaetemi »

dale_glass wrote: post #78
leoc wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wanting to dual-boot sometimes isn't that rare, surely. And local storage for documents remains popular too. It seems to reflect the reality that serious Linux development effort has been very server-focussed for a long time.

These days probably quite rare, except for gaming. Virtualization is far more convenient.

Yeah, if you're going to exclude the common use cases, obviously it's going to be rare. (:

People still use local storage.

(I'd also like native ext4 support in Windows.)

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by dale_glass »

kaetemi wrote: post #86
dale_glass wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days probably quite rare, except for gaming. Virtualization is far more convenient.

Yeah, if you're going to exclude the common use cases, obviously it's going to be rare. (: People still use local storage. (I'd also like native ext4 support in Windows.)

Yeah, but when I boot Windows for gaming, I don't care about sharing data with Linux.

And given the availability of cloud storage, I can just upload whatever little I need to share.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by ianlevesque »

doublepg23 wrote: post #71
kitsunesoba wrote: post #5

Interesting, I would've expected more Windows software to just assume NTFS with some fallbacks for (ex)fat given how there haven't really been any other options for quite some time. How stable is Btrfs these days? Remember reading years ago that it was bad about spontaneously corrupting itself for no apparent reason. Curious if something similar is possible with ZFS.

I enjoy it as ext4++. Would I trust it for RAID? Not particularly. There seems to be a decent amount of foot-guns still and I would greatly prefer just using ZFS. Granted, I do trust Synology using btrfs but they are also subject matter experts on the topic.

Synology doesn’t use btrfs in raid mode either. They put it on top of their LVM-based RAID instead.

Re: Windows on Btrfs

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Post by fdr »

watmough wrote: post #83
dale_glass wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Related tangent: Something I don't fully understand (perhaps I just haven't found a project that facilitates it) is why there isn't a Windows extension (driver?) that allows for native mounting of ext4 partitions within Windows explorer. Such projects have long existed, but I suspect there's a lack of interest. It's a difficult technical problem with a narrow usage niche. You need somebody who wants both Windows an…

Back in the day, and I mean like mid-late 90's, you could actually install the Linux kernel, files etc., straight onto a Windows FAT partition and boot into it. Not exactly what was being asked for, but a weird old fact I'd forgotten about.

Sometime in the early 2000s, when microarchitectural features for virtualization were rare, I used coLinux in a working capacity. It has a design was amazing at how well it worked given the constrained size of the code changes. In short, it ran a copy of Linux in supervisor mode in addition to Windows (this is the "driver mode"). At the same time. Both in supervisor mode. As a giant coroutines yielding to one another.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooperative_Linux http://www.colinux.org/publications/Reprint-Aloni-OLS2004.pd...

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