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Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
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Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#82The posted article presents a naive point of view. In tech, it's very common for those who resign to be walked out of the building immediately. In corporate America, the idea that you'd give THEM more notice than they'd give YOU in the event of layoffs is one-sided. By all means, plan your exit carefully. Ensure your own security. If it's an amiable parting, try not to leave them in a lurch. But all of that is you be…
Yeah, two weeks is customary in the US and most employers will either take you up on the offer or walk you out the door but pay for the two weeks anyway because it's not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things and it's just easier that way. (and if they weasel out of that two weeks pay it's not a lot of money from the employee side.) I did give 2x longer notice once and it ended up fine but wasn't really necessary.
What is important is that if there are vesting dates and things like that, wait until those happen rather than assume employers will let you mean employed through notice periods, vacation days, etc.
And, yes, there are doubtless circumstances where "I won't be working here as of next Monday" is probably the prudent approach.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#83LOL, I tried that at Apple, was immediately made to pack my stuff after watch of a security guard and escorted off premises. As if I couldn't copy their stuff first and give notice later if that was my intent. Now obviously, in a mom and pop shop, I would discuss my desire to leave before I even started looking and help find/train my replacement, while they would likewise help me find a new job that better fits my li…
Yep. This is how it works in any corporation that has higly sensitive secrets -- regulatory, risk, trade, or otherwise -- that they are highly keen on keeping safe. As soon as you signal your intent to quit, if you were privy to any of those, you are a risk, and the priority is getting you off-boarded and your access revoked ASAP. That's just how it goes
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#84This is terrible advice. Great that it has worked for the author but it does not mean it's a good idea for everyone. 2 weeks is the standard and as long as you give that you maintain good relations. Most people are not as valuable or important as they like to think they are. I have seen very important people leave / fired and things still go on. (Twitter is still working - isn't it?) Once you tell that you are leavin…
In my experience it's really situational and depends on the relationship with co-workers more than managers. I've given as much as a month at places I liked and where knowledge transfer will be useful to those who will pick up my slack. Others, I simply said "I'm done" and spent the remaining days posting GIFs and XKCDs on Slack
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
It really depends on the worker, in my experience, and their approach to the situation. I had one person who gave a full year's notice, so that we could hire, train, and integrate the new worker before she left. It was glorious and resulted in zero down time. I have had another who gave one month's notice, and spent the entire time being toxic. Digging out from under that took the better part of three years. The over…
>I had one person who gave a full year's notice I don't understand how anyone could do this with exception of retirement. Who will hire you with one year long advance?
I could see this happening in a project based environment or with someone who has a long term plan to pivot away from work(travel/family/having kids/etc). If you're working on something pretty big, you might be willing to see it through, and quit before moving on to the next thing.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#86I agree entirely.
It's rare that I've ever given less than a month's notice when leaving a position. My instinct is to give as much notice as I possibly can. In part because it's just professional, and in part because I'm still a part of the team until I leave, and giving the maximal amount of notice is in the team's best interest.
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#872 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?
> My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal? You're not even required to give two weeks, though that's widely considered to be a courteous thing to do. If it's employment at will (as most jobs are in the United States), you can put down your tools and walk out the door with no notice of any kind. The other side of that coin is that the employer can fire you/lay you off, also wit…
You can ALWAYS just put down your tools and walk out the door. “At will” laws have to do with the employer firing you.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#882 weeks is the standard? I am amazed. In Switzerland where I live, it is 3 full calendar months. And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA... My god 2 weeks lol, someone quits and he is gone the next day. How is this legal?
> And I thought Switzerland is very similar to the USA What? I suggest you come and visit.
Switzerland is more similar to the US than the rest of Western Europe in a lot of ways. This is not one of them.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#89I've generally given a lot of notice as an IC, 2-3 months in some cases. and I have to say, I think it's not been appreciated, not even once. I've tried to spend the time wrapping things up, communicating my tacit knowledge to my coworkers, and writing documentation for things that I've done and created and am responsible for; I'm fairly certain that no one has given my opinions and thoughts any more than a cursory a…
Like most things, it depends. I've given employers no time up to 4 weeks. Smaller ones will definitely receive more grace if they have been good to me. And, when I was an employer I tried to do the same for others. Another note is that I'm always succession planning. Document, share what I'm doing, etc... I learned early on that if I couldn't be replaced, I also couldn't be promoted.
> I learned early on that if I couldn't be replaced, I also couldn't be promoted.
Even as someone who has zero interest in being promoted, I think this is good practice. It's part of helping to maintain a healthy organization. If anyone is actually indispensable, that's a very dangerous situation for the team and the company.
Re: Career advice no one gave me: Give a lot of notice when you quit
#90While giving notice is polite, it's important to note that it is just a courtesy in most places, and you're providing that courtesy to something that will happily fire you with no notice if it benefits them. If you're somewhere an employer can treat you as having quit the day you provide notice, then you should give minimal notice to maximize stock vesting, benefits, etc. So you don't need to provide "more notice (a…
>In most countries (5) is some variation of "earned income", that is you've earned that money and they have to pay you out when your employment ceases. In many countries sick leave is also earned income and must also be paid out. Hence (5) is unnecessary.
Yes, but if they let you have a "last working day" and then take vacation, you're getting both your salary and your benefits (like healthcare) for that time. Depending on the circumstances--i.e. retiring or taking time off between jobs anyway--this may be the better deal. Even if they say no, you still get the money.