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Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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People want to see 100% success in all things. But that isn't very economical. Compare the SLS to Starship. SLS has had a 100% success rate. One launch, one success. But it costs $2B per launch (and climbing) and has taken 12 years to get here. Plus, it's stealing pieces of the Space Shuttle, which was developed in the 70s over a long period of time. Starship will launch a half a dozen "failures" before they achieve…

How much did starship cost?

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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One interesting observation here is how long it took the ship to get off the pad from the T-0 mark. This is undoubtedly because some of the raptors on it apparently failed to ignite. I thought they were about to make a mess on the launch pad!

I'm also curious about what technically finally got it off the ground - was there a sufficient, but low, level of acceleration, was it a matter of reducing the rocket's mass (by burning through fuel), was it a matter of some of the engines reaching some peak level of performance. Or, probably most likely, maybe just a combination of everything.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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People always joke that a success like this will be blasted by the media as a failure, but it's the most predictable thing ever. Massive success today for SpaceX but the story is massive failure. So silly. I'm as anti-Musk as the next, but it's also weird to see so many people gleeful that Musk must be so embarrassed at this 'massive failure'. Like, how uninformed do you have to be to think that Elon would be humilia…

Also notable is that unlike most heavy lift rockets in history they have a functional assembly line that can rapidly churn these things out. We should only have to wait a couple months for the next test flight.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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One of the new graphics that showed up on the dashboard was that of the engines lit. There were at least 2 on the outer ring that were fed from TO, and a few more winked out during the flight. I’m curious how many off engines the system tolerates. How many do they anticipate regularly? I’ve never noticed if Falcon 9s periodically run as a Falcon 8 or 7? All and all, ‘‘twas an awesome sight. Kudos to all those cheerin…

I think the regular Falcon 9 was designed to lose an engine every single launch.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad. Suggesting that this test “failed” is at best a mischaracterisation.

Cause space billionaire man: bad.

But seriously what a terrible title. This was a huge accomplishment in engineering, getting it this far up.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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I think SpaceX fooled a lot of people (myself included) that Elon was some kind of genius of visionary. But given everything he has done and said and everything about his past that has come to light I C think it should now be clear that SpaceX is a success in spite of Elon not because of him.

Whoever is actually running the show has effectively built an insulating wall around Elon to limit his influence, especially from day-to-day operations.

A few months ago there was an unverified account of this from an alleged SpaceX intern. I can’t say it’s true but it certainly rings true.

We’ve seen from Twitter he’s not much of a businessman (the deal he got himself into was terrible) and not he’s talking about software many of us here realize just how clueless he is about Tech.

With SpaceX not many of us knew much about rocketry so you know what they say: in the valley of the blind the one eyed man is king.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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One of the new graphics that showed up on the dashboard was that of the engines lit. There were at least 2 on the outer ring that were fed from TO, and a few more winked out during the flight. I’m curious how many off engines the system tolerates. How many do they anticipate regularly? I’ve never noticed if Falcon 9s periodically run as a Falcon 8 or 7? All and all, ‘‘twas an awesome sight. Kudos to all those cheerin…

At least 6 seemed to be off

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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post #61

People want to see 100% success in all things. But that isn't very economical. Compare the SLS to Starship. SLS has had a 100% success rate. One launch, one success. But it costs $2B per launch (and climbing) and has taken 12 years to get here. Plus, it's stealing pieces of the Space Shuttle, which was developed in the 70s over a long period of time. Starship will launch a half a dozen "failures" before they achieve…

The way I'm hearing it was not a failure but an unbelievable smashing success. No one expected the rocket to get to the launchpad, much less off of it. The second stage was not expected to be reached at all, it's cool that they even tried. Greatest test launch of all time. From what I've read this morning if the test flight had worked all the way it would be like man on moon levels of good.

Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Musk has many issues, but what is the point of bringing his grudge with Trans? The rocket is a great success and in the grand scale of things is worth the ego grandstanding. The man has done nothing illegal and has accomplished a lot amazing things. Congrats to SpaceX, Elon, the Americans and Humanity. What good is freedom of thought and speech if one cannot exercise it? I probably drank the old american koolaid and…

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Re: SpaceX Starship rocket explodes minutes after launch from Texas

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Success was defined as the rocket leaving the launchpad. Suggesting that this test “failed” is at best a mischaracterisation.

The irony is that we're all "fail fast" until something actually fails fast.

SpaceX has taken 21 years to get to this point. They have not failed fast. They have seen a long series of huge successes from doing some incredible engineering. Today's test is a small part of that journey.
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