From https://proton.me/blog/proton-pass-beta : "Proton Pass is also one of the first password managers to include a fully integrated two-factor authenticator (2FA) and supports 2FA autofill." Highly doubt that. There are already multiple password managers with the feature.
Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager
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#83> Like every other Proton service, Proton Pass will be open source and publicly auditable upon launch, so anyone can independently verify our security features and their implementation. I doubt its going to include sever side code like bitwarden. But I pay for proton and I'm happy to switch if their product can fully compete.
Having the server code would be useful for self-hosting, but if you're relying on Proton to host the code for you, then you have to have a certain level of trust with them regardless.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do you sync your password manager between computers, out of curiosity? Most people put that file online somewhere they can copy it to other computers. Or is the ad-hoc nature of this usage a defense? I use KeepassXC though, I'm still not terribly confident that I haven't lost data from forgetting to merge another modified database before overwriting it.
I can't answer for OP, but for me, I just don't. I prefer an entirely offline password manager, and that's the way I use mine (I use enpass). Except for backing up to the cloud, it does not really use the network. When I need a password, on my computer or on my phone, I look it up and transcribe it (I'm reluctant even to allow it to hook into the password autocomplete in IOS; I prefer to copy/paste because I don't re…
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#85With how Proton handled the French climate activist debacle, who is going to trust this over pretty much any alternative if they're concerned about privacy or security?
Proton Pass utilizes end-to-end encryption, so not even Proton can decrypt user data, and there have been hundreds of court cases that have proven that Proton's encryption cannot be bypassed by court orders. Proton like all law abiding companies must follow court orders. But unlike most companies, Proton actually fights in court and won a legal victory against the Swiss government after the case in question, overturn…
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Would you like to explain why they are "about to be totally dead"?
I’m guessing PassKeys / WebAuthn rolling out everywhere but at the same time not every site will get it I know. After all, there’s still sites in 2023 that ask users to limit their password length to 16 and only use certain characters.
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#87While I like players such as Proton entering the Password manager space, I hope they don't lose focus with the multitudes of products. What I liked about Proton was the simplicity on just one product and executing it well, but lately they've kept on adding new products some in their wheelhouse and aligns well (VPN for example), but some a stretch (Drive/Calendar).
Only their mail product was vaguely good, but became very outdated as the years went on. I liked Proton VPN but ultimately ditched the whole in favour of better value, better UX, more features.
Re: Proton announces Proton Pass, a password manager
#88> Like every other Proton service, Proton Pass will be open source and publicly auditable upon launch, so anyone can independently verify our security features and their implementation. I doubt its going to include sever side code like bitwarden. But I pay for proton and I'm happy to switch if their product can fully compete.
Genuine question - how is it useful for them to release the server-side code? How do you know for sure that the code they have released is the same as what they are running? Having the server code would be useful for self-hosting, but if you're relying on Proton to host the code for you, then you have to have a certain level of trust with them regardless.
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#89i really hope its passphrase generation is on par with bitwarden. I'm not going back to a nonsense password generator, i hate typing these into other devices. Give me CorrectB4tteryStapleHorse! or no deal. edit: i really like that they leverate simple login, that might be a reason to switch.
Ideally you shouldn't be looking at the actual contents of your passwords! All my passwords are long and, apart from my password manager which requires my devices and 2fa token, I won't log into any of them by typing a password.