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Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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I've talked with endless amount of people, people I know since before and people I don't know since before, and I don't think anyone (unless relevant to the discussion at hand) has asked me how much money I make, or who I'm sleeping with. Maybe it's because I'm not 16 years old, or maybe it's because I don't frequent night clubs in hot metropolitan areas anymore, but that strikes me as very odd that most of the peopl…

People dont ask these things directly ... asking what you do for a living is asking how much money you make. > 16 years old Back then they asked what your parents did for a living

I have a genuine interest to know what people do for a living, I don't really care about their paycheck.

I always find interesting how people try to tell how their jobs are interesting but in the end we all know it is boring as hell.

It's amazing how we are willing to do shit stuff so we can be able to pay our bills.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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post #64

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Most of the time people steer the conversation right back to the two big hitters - how much money do you make and who are you sleeping with. To those that dont - you are truly the people I actually want to have a conversation with.

I've talked with endless amount of people, people I know since before and people I don't know since before, and I don't think anyone (unless relevant to the discussion at hand) has asked me how much money I make, or who I'm sleeping with. Maybe it's because I'm not 16 years old, or maybe it's because I don't frequent night clubs in hot metropolitan areas anymore, but that strikes me as very odd that most of the peopl…

If anyone's ever asked:

- what do you do?

- where do you live?

- are you married?

- have any kids?

They're asking about your money and your sex life.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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In the UK we do this as part of status negotiation - the second question anyone asks (after whats your name?) is what do you do? Then we can decide whether we are above or below the other person in the status hierarchy, which is roughly as follows: - Architect - Artist/Designer/Creative - Lawyer/Doctor/Teacher - Executive/Manager - ... - ... - Bar staff - Engineer - Software Engineer - Waiter - Driver - Cleaner

You forgot brain surgeon. Of course it's not rocket science is it.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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If you are someone that tells other people what he does for a living and talk about work when meeting new people, stop doing that and reflect on why it's so hard to come up with something alternative[1]. No, it's not because a good chunk of your time is devoted to work or something about values reflected in the work you do(there is not enough "space" for that at work). Only insufferable humans cares about your title…

> there is not enough "space" for that at work It sounds like you are over generalising from a limited set of experiences. > reflect on why it's so hard to come up with something alternative Same with this one. I for one find it easy to talk about things other than my work, but also find it that people enjoy when I tell them about my field and have a ton of questions. The key is to live an interesting life and be a g…

> It sounds like you are over generalising from a limited set of experiences.

Definitely not, having a job where your values can shine is not the norm. And I don't know what your field is but most jobs, especially in the software development space are nothing to write home about or worthy of discussion with people outside the software bubble.

As always, individual experiences could sometimes deviate from the norm but that doesn't change the fact that most jobs are of little interest to other people. And reflect negatively on one's character when used to project status, like a lot of people do.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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If you are someone that tells other people what he does for a living and talk about work when meeting new people, stop doing that and reflect on why it's so hard to come up with something alternative[1]. No, it's not because a good chunk of your time is devoted to work or something about values reflected in the work you do(there is not enough "space" for that at work). Only insufferable humans cares about your title…

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Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People dont ask these things directly ... asking what you do for a living is asking how much money you make. > 16 years old Back then they asked what your parents did for a living

I have a genuine interest to know what people do for a living, I don't really care about their paycheck. I always find interesting how people try to tell how their jobs are interesting but in the end we all know it is boring as hell. It's amazing how we are willing to do shit stuff so we can be able to pay our bills.

The most interesting of 'genuine interest to know what people do for a living' converstations I have had are with parents of late teen parents ... who want to guide their children towards careers or advice about careers (almost always includes - "there is good money in that" so the same rule applies all the same).

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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When I did my PhD I hated it when (most) people asked about my research. It's not because I wasn't interested, it's because I'm really interested and was (still am) bad at giving concise summaries, so I felt like people who really didn't care and wouldn't listen to the answer were asking me to embark on a long explanation that required a bunch of preamble etc, just in order to make conversation.

Anyway, I feel largely the same about work. I love talking about what I do, but not with people who aren't listening and who are just asking to form an opinion of my social status. So 9 times out of 10 I just sort of mumble something and talk about something else, just like in grad school.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a genuine interest to know what people do for a living, I don't really care about their paycheck. I always find interesting how people try to tell how their jobs are interesting but in the end we all know it is boring as hell. It's amazing how we are willing to do shit stuff so we can be able to pay our bills.

The most interesting of 'genuine interest to know what people do for a living' converstations I have had are with parents of late teen parents ... who want to guide their children towards careers or advice about careers (almost always includes - "there is good money in that" so the same rule applies all the same).

Haha yep. But if you have a business or plan to have one, it's good to know what people around you do, you never know.

Re: Stop Telling Everyone What You Do for a Living

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In the UK we do this as part of status negotiation - the second question anyone asks (after whats your name?) is what do you do? Then we can decide whether we are above or below the other person in the status hierarchy, which is roughly as follows: - Architect - Artist/Designer/Creative - Lawyer/Doctor/Teacher - Executive/Manager - ... - ... - Bar staff - Engineer - Software Engineer - Waiter - Driver - Cleaner

Exactly, it's about projecting status for those who think they can.
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