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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by ploum »

pjmlp wrote: post #76
Azadzadeh wrote: post #32

People don't seem to realize the risk of centralizing on a single provider and solution. Currently, it's like 90% of the FOSS projects are hosted on GitHub. It all seems smooth and all until one day you log in to their platform and find yourself essentially shunned-off from collaborating on FOSS scene [1] . I'm grateful Codeberg, sourcehut and other alternatives exist. One nitpick from my experience: Codeberg's stati…

We do realise, Sourceforge. It turns out most don't care.

Monopolies are always bad. Always. And Github is a proprietary software which is nearly a monopoly for hosting free software (how ironic, isn’t it?). Exactly like sourceforge was, you are right.

Each generation must learn it the hard way.

https://ploum.net/2023-02-22-leaving-github.html

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by Proven »

Entinel wrote: post #19

> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues. If you aren't doing FOSS software and aren't "tolerated" you aren'…

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Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by rakoo »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #80
jraph wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if your goal is not being successful in term of absolute number of users no matter what but instead to promote something? It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. > They need to understand that contributions and use are driven by utility and convenience and economics, not morality You are wrong. GNU's whole existence is for moral reasons, and their tools…

>It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. In general I prefer if people keep their politics out of IT infrastructure. We don't all agree on what makes the world better and what makes it worse. That said, I don't have a problem with this particular project. It's absolutely fine to create a git hosting solution specifically for open source as open source is its…

You cannot remove politics from IT infrastructure. Politics is everywhere. Politics is deciding how we live together as a society; the very fact we're having this discussion is politics.

It's the fable of being apolitical that is a mistake, because in doing so you are strengthening the status quo and prevent others from thinking about the situation and changing it.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by physPop »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #25

> No tracking. Your data is not for sale. Of course, Codeberg is not saying GitHub sells your data, but it seems to imply someone is selling your data if you don't use Codeberg and instead use other services. Is there any backing for this? Who sells your data if you use GitHub that won't sell your data when you use Codeberg?

My new breakfast cereal is different, it contains zero rusty nails!

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by jraph »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #80
jraph wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if your goal is not being successful in term of absolute number of users no matter what but instead to promote something? It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. > They need to understand that contributions and use are driven by utility and convenience and economics, not morality You are wrong. GNU's whole existence is for moral reasons, and their tools…

>It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. In general I prefer if people keep their politics out of IT infrastructure. We don't all agree on what makes the world better and what makes it worse. That said, I don't have a problem with this particular project. It's absolutely fine to create a git hosting solution specifically for open source as open source is its…

> In general I prefer if people keep their politics out of IT infrastructure

You need to make choices that will have tradeoffs anyway. Unless you find a consensual choice, which is very rare, you might be picking mainstream ones, which are not neutral.

Neutrality does not exist. For instance, for any software you need to choose, it will be either proprietary or open source. Both have political implications.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by ddevault »

xigoi wrote: post #74
ddevault wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

fwiw there's a bug in the system which updates this page and it has grown rather stale. (author of this website)

Good to know. Do you think Codeberg is actually faster than GitHub now?

Couldn't say, but I do think Codeberg's performance is anecdotally reasonable and I'm fond of their ideals and practices.

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by glitchc »

Entinel wrote: post #19

> Our mission is to support the creation and development of Free Software; therefore we only allow repos licensed under an OSI/FSF-approved license. For more details see Licensing article. However, we sometimes tolerate repositories that aren't perfectly licensed and focus on spreading awareness on the topic of improper FLOSS licensing and its issues. If you aren't doing FOSS software and aren't "tolerated" you aren'…

Is this really worth throwing a hissy fit over? The OSI list alone is quite broad [1]. I see many licenses there that do not restrict inclusion of code in commercial products.

[1] https://opensource.org/licenses/

Re: Codeberg – Fast open source alternative to GitHub

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Post by goodpoint »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #80
jraph wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if your goal is not being successful in term of absolute number of users no matter what but instead to promote something? It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. > They need to understand that contributions and use are driven by utility and convenience and economics, not morality You are wrong. GNU's whole existence is for moral reasons, and their tools…

>It's fortunate that sometimes people refuse to build big tents and instead push for a better world. In general I prefer if people keep their politics out of IT infrastructure. We don't all agree on what makes the world better and what makes it worse. That said, I don't have a problem with this particular project. It's absolutely fine to create a git hosting solution specifically for open source as open source is its…

So we can arbitrarily label whatever we dislike as "political" and then demand people to "their politics out of $thing"?

That's not how it works. There are no neutral positions.

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