Glad that they're making these announcements ahead of time so I know not to consider a GM vehicle.
GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
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#82> This change, the report explains, will help GM “capture more data on how consumers drive and charge EVs.” Oh cool, a company reducing features so they can collect more data on me.
Considering how few drivers they will have in their cars, they can just capture this data with pen and paper manually.
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#83Do you have to have a Google account to use the car?
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#84I haven’t seen anyone mention car rentals in this thread. It is a huge bonus to have an interface, maps, music, etc you know and trust. When renting a car in the last 5 years it is basically standard to have access to CarPlay, and it is the same system many of us use in our own cars. Will rental companies buy vehicles without it, and support this move too?
I always travel with a phone mount in case my rental car doesn't have CarPlay.
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#85Are they trying to ruin their sales to rental car companies?
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to mention, isn’t CarPlay just an interface for the phone to be able to connect to so the screen can display the software operating on the phone? Near zero cost to GM, tons of convenience for GM’s customers. I can only imagine GM wants customers’ data or subscription fees, and Apple will not allow that. And this is a business that got bailed out by US taxpayers, and is explicitly too big to fail.
problem is (from GM's perspective), with CarPlay, Apple takes over the UX of the car...the Apple logo is the first and last thing people see when driving GM doesn't want Apple or Google taking over the UX of the car, because then GM is eventually just another FoxConn and sure, there's a money thing...they want revshare from Spotify and every other app they can position in the UI CarPlay and Android Auto will be gone…
In many vehicles, CarPlay and Android Auto appear within a panel on the overall interface, they don't have to take over the whole UI.
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#87Looks like they will offer some sort of customized Android Automotive, which is awesome, but restrict casting from your phone?
Seems really short sighted, I feel most folks would use the built-in stuff but having the option to cast from a phone is a must have escape hatch.
Wireless CarPlay on our Bolt EV is one of the best features, sad to see that go.
Re: GM plans to phase out Apple CarPlay in EVs, with Google's help
#88I’ll remain open minded about this, but it seems unwise to go all-in with android and abandon Apple for even the most expensive cars. Are people who buy Cadillacs (who probably own iPhones) not going to mind not having CarPlay? Or will they buy a BMW or Mercedes instead? When you’re dropping $75k on a car, you expect it not to have any compromises.
They're not going all-in with Android or abandoning Apple, they're phasing out both CarPlay AND Android Auto in favor of something entirely new (that just so happens to be built by Google).
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#89I would never buy a car that did not support both Android Auto and CarPlay. In fact, that is why I did not buy a Prius.
The software in a Chevy Bolt EV is unbelievably bad, taking several second to respond to presses of the power button, which means your awful experience starts from the moment you get in the car. I suggest that GM mercifully assign each and every member of their software division to literally any other non-software role, and let someone with good taste take over.
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#90I own a pretty old car, so haven't got the bells and whistles. But I've just rented a new model Camry for the last 3 weeks, and here's my takeaways: Android Auto is much better than Apple Carplay. Carplay was janky and the navigation stuttered. Also the layout of the on-screen UI was weird, and poorly thought out. As usual I think, Android Auto is probably designed to work ok on any size screen and gracefully degrade…
Android Auto = uber janky