if anyones wondering why an indictment might not have charges announced, its generally because the prosecution is working to limit the ability of the defendant to influence the court of public appeal before the trial. The prosecution is certainly versed in former president Trumps histrionic theatricality.
Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump
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Even in the absolute worst case scenario for Trump (he loses and... has a massive fine? Is in jail for a bit?), this is a huge boost to Trump's campaign handed to him on a silver platter. Honestly thats exactly what Democrats want too, as they would rather run against Trump than Desantis or a Never Trumper.
This framing comes up all the time. Is there anything that would…not be good for Trump’s campaign?
ignoring him?
Re: Grand jury votes to indict Donald Trump
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What do you mean? I want this, why would history be unkind to me?
Why would any future president ever want to relinquish power, when a future of prosecution awaits him. Better serve as long as possible in that case, and use the power of government to keep himself in power. Kind of what used to happen before democracy.
"as long as possible" is two terms, in the US, no?
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#84Hacker News is better without unrelated political news.
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#85Is it weird that I don't care? When he was in office he drove me insane. Now I really couldn't be bothered. I think I'm desensitized to... politics, or justice, or something.
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#87I think it sets a good precedent. If indicting past presidents (and vice presidents) for crimes committed while in office (or while running for office), well, the courts are going to be busy on this front for years to come. Bush and Cheney are certainly candidates, r.e. those "Saddam has an active WMD program" claims. The list could be expanded to include charges related to the unConstitutional domestic spying progra…
I think the reason this indictment is tolerated is precisely due to it not being about any of those things. Anyone who wants to be President will be comfortable doing all the things you list, and probably worse we don't know about, but they are also generally savvy enough to keep their non-political crimes plausibly deniable. So, go after Trump specifically when he wasn't able to do that much.
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#88LegalEagle has quite a few videos on the various investigations into Trump, his organization, and his associates if you're curious about process: https://www.youtube.com/@LegalEagle/search?query=grand%20jur... He'll probably have a video out on this soon.
On the Trump side, I like TechnoFog's analyses. They're also heavily involved in tracking the Epstein scandal: https://technofog.substack.com/about
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#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you mean? He's a real lawyer and law professor. I haven't heard of any of these criticisms. edit: I can't reply, so... Specific criticisms, please? The link is to a video with a Canadian lawyer and someone who might actually have a relevant opinion on US law who, several minutes in, can only seem to broadly and mockingly dismiss him without saying anything specific other than accuse him of being biased and mo…
> edit: I can't reply, so... For very fresh comments (<1 minute?) you need to go to the comment page by clicking on its time to get a reply box. (Honestly not sure what that's trying to achieve: it's not like one considered the comment for longer before loading up keyboard_warrior.exe just because the comment existed for longer at the moment one loaded the page.)
No, I was rate limited. I can only seem to do about 3 comments per hour even in completely different threads.