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The age of average

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Re: The age of average

#81
So on the first example, I wouldn't be surprised if regular people everywhere had somewhat similar tastes and can't see why it would be a bad thing. Aesthetics diverge because of artistic cultures. If you're not a part of an "in" crowd, well, there's no reason why you'd be clued into what idiosyncratic things to like. Breaking out of isolated villages is actually a great thing of modernity, if you have any practical idea of premodern life. I prefer not to be locked into life of my rural grandparents, no matter how "authentic" it could be.

For the mass culture part, skepticism of most of the comments here does feel cheap. It's not that you aren't allowed to think about the world without properly hacking your p-values and pinky promise double blind peer review by your bros.

I think there's some merit to the feeling we are living in times of neo-midcentury rampant social conformity and anxiety to fit in, or else. A big part of this, I think, is economic anxiety that one has to conform to biologically survive in an unstable world and not be left alone. Though from my experience one can still escape much of it by dissociating from the terminally online algorithmic mainstream. Numerically most (?) of people don't care about it that much. It's good not to care about mainstream acceptance for yourself and your stuff, which is of course harder to do if you are an advertising person.

Let's hope these will be kinds of problems we'll care about in 10-15 years.

Re: The age of average

#82
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are people entitled to be valued by others?

Certainly, it's called the golden rule. Also, rejecting love and affection is the dumbest thing a person will ever do (not to speak to GPs example specifically of course, i don't know the situation).

I’m pretty sure most of these girls are doing the same with your brother. Not every relation should end in happily ever after

Re: The age of average

#83
What can I say, criticism of mediocracy all look the same:

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/51961637

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/104973152110363...

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/jems.12469

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1049731520974764

https://revistaseletronicas.pucrs.br/ojs/index.php/revistafa...

http://manuscript.elsevier.com/S004727271500119X/pdf/S004727...

https://epub.ub.uni-muenchen.de/13268/1/286.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/30241852/La_m%C3%A9diocratie_fran%C...

Re: The age of average

#84
post #66

I used to think that the convergence of similar branding (logos, colors, etc) was the product of corporations hiring the same marketing consultants, but the part about the instagram aesthetic blew my mind. Looking through my wife's feed, a lot of women post pics in similar clothes, in similar poses, in similar locations, doing similar activities. We're dumb heard animals, apparently.

Perhaps we try to do the same as others (wear the same clothes, pose the same way, buy the same things, etc.) so as not to be an alien too much?

I can agree with that - fitting in is important. Totally makes sense.

Re: The age of average

#86
post #39

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I figured people were going to take issue with the opening anecdote about art, but that was simply the author trying to frame the story in an interesting way. The rest of the article was more compelling. The ubiquity of the 5-over-1 architecture in the US is very striking. The NY Times had an article recently called "America the Bland" [1] which challenged people to tell if apartments were in Nashville, Seattle or De…

5 over 1 is the result of regulations of various kinds converging resulting in economic pressures dictating that building format. Also unless land is just atrociously expensive, the marginal cost of adding floors doesn't go down. In fact it really goes up at some point. I've still never actually worked out how sewage works in supertall buildings.

And those economic pressures include: at 5 floors, you can stickbuild the structure with relatively unskilled labor. External skins can make them look relatively different, but a single concrete floor with stores, and a structure that wraps around and hides the parking structure is, pragmatically, easy and cheap to build.

Re: The age of average

#87
The article purports to be an investigation to find out what people like; but feels much more like they started off with a conclusion and then went looking for evidence to support that.

This seems very similar to many news stories or scientific studies these days. Start off with a narrative. Highlight anything that supports your narrative. Ignore anything that contradicts it.

Re: The age of average

#88
post #75

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This is contrary to my experience: trends and fashion were short lived, trends lasting maybe half a year, and the fashion of the last season was definitely "out". Nowadays, there's a previously unknown stability and trends shift just minimally. Which enables this "everything looks the same" phenomenon as there is minimal variation over time and lots of room for aesthetics to spread and eventually engulf and embrace e…

There was a piece going around awhile ago about the haunted Victorian mansion that seems relevant to me. E.g., https://www.washingtonpost.com/home/2022/10/27/why-victorian... The idea was the world went through a drastic change with WWII and the Victorian mansion started seeming like a ghostly remnant of the earlier age. Antiques Roadshow had a similar podcast where they discussed the "brown is down" phenomenon. Did…

Something that was always fascinating to me: there had been a time, around 1100, when the style of ceilings in sacral architecture was "discussed" with urgency and churches went through 3 redesigns and rebuilds in just 10 years (from a flat ceiling, to barrel vault, to cross ribs, which became predominant in about 1105/1107 – there are several examples). This is totally unthinkable nowadays, where buildings that went through planning and construction phases of a decade and more are still considered "dernier ci".

Re: The age of average

#89
This is silly. Every era's art, architecture, and fashion look similar. That's why you can even identify categories like Victorian houses, Mid-century Modern design, or expressionism. It's why you can throw a 70's party and people show up looking the part. And it's why truly great art stands out - it either creates the trend or bucks the trend.

Re: The age of average

#90
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I figured people were going to take issue with the opening anecdote about art, but that was simply the author trying to frame the story in an interesting way. The rest of the article was more compelling. The ubiquity of the 5-over-1 architecture in the US is very striking. The NY Times had an article recently called "America the Bland" [1] which challenged people to tell if apartments were in Nashville, Seattle or De…

5 over 1 is the result of regulations of various kinds converging resulting in economic pressures dictating that building format. Also unless land is just atrociously expensive, the marginal cost of adding floors doesn't go down. In fact it really goes up at some point. I've still never actually worked out how sewage works in supertall buildings.

It's not the format that I'm referring to but the style.

The dominant architectural style of them includes:

- Multiple boxes merged into each other at different heights and depths

- Multiple (2-3) siding materials used in a regular pattern, such as vinyl slats + brick, or smooth aluminum + brick + cement.

- Multiple colors used in a regular pattern, usually white + gray + bright-primary-color. Primary color is used in small rectangular splashes, usually below or beside alternate windows

The basic look is that of many shipping containers nestled into each other.

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