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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

schmorptron wrote: post #66
KeepingItToasty wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't actually know what specific version of AMD CPU is available. Just that one option is Ryzen 5 and the other is Ryzen 7: "For the AMD Ryzen™ 7040 Series processors, we’ll be sharing more detailed specifications as we get closer to shipment." Source: https://frame.work/gb/en/blog/framework-laptop-13-with-13th-...

The big question is whether the cooling system in the 13" would be able to handle the HS. Is there any data on Zen 4 laptop chips that has tested the efficiency vs performance considerations on the U vs the HS series?

No, but you can look it up here when there are. There is no better notebook reviewer: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7-7840HS-Processor-B...

On previous generations: the 4000 series starts to hit a relative performance wall at around 35W. The 5000 series clocked higher and hence gained more moving from 15 to 35 and 35 to 45.

Not sure about the 6000 series, but you can see for yourself: https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Ryzen-7-6800U-Processor-Be...

Another point: you can throttle the 35W HS series to 15W, and get the laptop to run fanless or almost fanless since it is designed to cool a higher TDP.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by vanilla_nut »

samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

Really exciting to see. I almost got a Framework for my work setup last month, but lack of an AMD option held me back. My personal laptop is still chugging along, but the AMD Framework is at the top of my list now!

If only I'd waited an extra month to order my new work equipment.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by agloe_dreams »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #21

For folks who'd rather read than watch, Tom's Hardware has a summary: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/framework-laptop-13-16-amd... tl;dr: A 16" laptop with modular dedicated graphics (PCIe x8 either v4 or v5 with fans on the module), expansion bay cards (dual m.s SSDs), a new 'input system' with multiple keyboards in multiple languages and optional RGB lighting as well as support for numpads and secondary displays…

While I'm glad they are actually making a product for their actual niche...

Personally, looking at the 16...it's just a 'You were supposed to be the chosen one.' gif.

Damn near everything is proprietary, even if they were to open source it, they have basically created their own new standards for everything from the GPU to the new RGB modules that seem like insane distractions. Also those trackpad spacers are a solution but yikes that looks like trash.

All I see is SKU overload and inventory problems all while they are distracted with solving RGB for some wild reason.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by _skel »

samtheDamned wrote: post #2

Every time Framework is brought up, there's a chorus of people saying they won't buy until they release an AMD edition, and as one of them this is great to see. Edit: Also the input deck and the ability to attach an egpu as well as upgrade to a newer egpu in the future are huge. This is a fantastic leap forward for Framework.

There is always going to be a chorus about something. Power users are impossible to please because they all have strong opinions but not the same opinions.

People will still want different screen resolutions, aspect ratios, keyboard layouts, etc. Now that AMD is available people will want particular CPU SKUs. It will never end.

I wish Framework luck, because they are targeting the pickiest userbase that exists.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by fuzzbazz »

frankjr wrote: post #33

> Coming later in 2023: Belgium, Taiwan, Italy, Spain Does anybody know why they do this country by country roll out? I'd be perfectly happy to order a US layout laptop but they don't allow me to place an order.

Maybe they'd have a lot of extra returns if people from these countries didn't pay attention and bought a laptop expecting the usual keyboard layout for their languages.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

haneefmubarak wrote: post #76
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or some arbitrary AI accelerator! Jim Keller should make a Tenstorrent board. They already want to make desktop cards, and that would be a great way to market them.

IIRC Jim Keller is now working on a Atomic Semi (new semiconductor fab startup) with Sam Zeloof, so he's probably not at Tenstorrent anymore?

He was just interviewed a month ago!

https://morethanmoore.substack.com/p/interview-with-jim-kell...

If he quit Tenstorrent, that must have been very recent.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by Hamuko »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #84

And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework.

Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by zmk5 »

Hamuko wrote: post #88
agloe_dreams wrote: post #84

And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

That and the Dave2D endorsements have been there since the first laptop.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Post by agloe_dreams »

Hamuko wrote: post #88
agloe_dreams wrote: post #84

And if you scroll down you can see the glowing review that they got from Linus Tech Tips.... Who owns a stake in their company...Yiiiikes.

I think that review might be from before Linus invested in Framework. Not that I can verify it because the Linus Tech Tips channel is still banned.

I think you are right but it still implies that LTT has a valid unbiased opinion on the product now.
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