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Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by minihat »

raincole wrote: post #67

My prediction for the top comments of this thread (paraphrased) 1. It's just Microsoft's advertisement 2. No it's just a very effective pattern matching algorithm 3. Please define intelligence first otherwise it's nonsense 4. I welcome our machine overlord 5. Lmao I asked it to do $thing and it failed I'd like to know if GPT-4 can predict the top comments of this thread?

"Did you know that squirrels can purr like cats? GPT-4 might be intelligent, but can it teach a squirrel to code?"

I asked gpt-4 for a comment no hn user would ever make on this article. Now you need a category for stubbornly original comments determined not to be numbered.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by moi2388 »

HopenHeyHi wrote: post #80
cowl wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you predict the top comments For a claim would be: 1. Dismisal 2. Trivialism 3. Non Well Formed Claim 4. I accept the claim 5. Disprove by counter example Are you sure you have not forgotten any tactic of debate to include in you prediction? I predict that you Prediction will result probably in these actions: 1. upvoted 2. downvoted

6. Meta comment for karma whoring 7. Like 6, but funnier A. Joke thread pile on B. Reprimands from humorless C. Dejected mods having to clean it all up

I thoroughly enjoyed point 7.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by js8 »

I don't accept that something is AGI unless it can solve general instances of SAT (satisfiability problem, not the school test). Also recognizing (formulating from the task) an instance in the first place would help too.

To me, these are hallmarks of reason, and not available in LLMs, in fact probably impossible just with pattern recognition.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by csdvrx »

reidjs wrote: post #65

Well of course Microsoft is going to say something sensational about it, aren’t they in charge of the project somewhat? This is just an advertisement for them, by them.

IDK, but Microsoft seems to be now what Google was a many many years ago: a company creating tech I like to use such as Bing, Edge, Windows Terminal, VSCode, etc. Their Surface hardware is nice too (even if I prefer thinkpads)

Oh and they're also helping with the linux kernel. Why can't old people let go? Companies aren't people - they respond to market incentices.

Yes, Microsoft did bad stuff in the 1990s, but now they're doing good stuff I like and TBH I'm way more afraid of google.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by sterlind »

js8 wrote: post #83

I don't accept that something is AGI unless it can solve general instances of SAT (satisfiability problem, not the school test). Also recognizing (formulating from the task) an instance in the first place would help too. To me, these are hallmarks of reason, and not available in LLMs, in fact probably impossible just with pattern recognition.

can you solve general instances of SAT?

can the average person?

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by BillyTheKing »

raincole wrote: post #67

My prediction for the top comments of this thread (paraphrased) 1. It's just Microsoft's advertisement 2. No it's just a very effective pattern matching algorithm 3. Please define intelligence first otherwise it's nonsense 4. I welcome our machine overlord 5. Lmao I asked it to do $thing and it failed I'd like to know if GPT-4 can predict the top comments of this thread?

from gpt4

write a critical hackernews thread response (not long, maybe like 100 words) for a thread with the following headline

Microsoft Research: GPT-4 exhibits “sparks of general intelligence”

While it's certainly intriguing to hear Microsoft Research claim that GPT-4 exhibits "sparks of general intelligence," I remain skeptical. We must remember that these language models are primarily built on pattern recognition and extensive training data. Even if GPT-4 seems to provide more advanced responses, it's still ultimately constrained by the data it was trained on. In my opinion, we shouldn't mistake this impressive mimicry of human-like behavior for genuine intelligence. Rather, we should focus on creating truly innovative AI systems that can learn, reason, and adapt like humans.

sounds about right!

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by shivekkhurana »

beoberha wrote: post #75

I know enough about how neural nets work to be absolutely blown away at how good the GPT are. I only skimmed the paper, but even chatGPT showed a lot of these “sparks”, IMO. We are certainly a long way off from any semblance of general intelligence, but for a model that just tries to predict the next word, I’m dumbfounded at how good it is.

"Long" might not be a long time as humans perceive it.

Human perception of time is linear. That doesn't apply to LLMs.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by gwoolhurme »

From the intro: "we believe that it could reasonably be viewed as an early (yet still incomplete) version of an artificial general intelligence (AGI) system."

What does that mean? If we take it as fact, so if it is an early version of AGI, Microsoft is using this thing to push subscriptions to all their services? This thing that is potentially the greatest thing humanity has made, an artificial living thing, and it's used to sell CoPilot and 365 subscriptions. Paint me as really sad then. Instead of sharing the research with other entities, or anything that could further help or push us... we get subscriptions? Fuck me, the future sucks.

Re: Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early Experiments with GPT-4

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Post by js8 »

sterlind wrote: post #85
js8 wrote: post #83

I don't accept that something is AGI unless it can solve general instances of SAT (satisfiability problem, not the school test). Also recognizing (formulating from the task) an instance in the first place would help too. To me, these are hallmarks of reason, and not available in LLMs, in fact probably impossible just with pattern recognition.

can you solve general instances of SAT? can the average person?

With enough patience, yes.

For example: You have a goat, a wolf, a cabbage and you want to cross a river...

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