Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

adobe.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

81–90 of 496 posts

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#81

Post by open-paren »

Adobe employee, not in Creative Cloud.

We got access to this in beta a week ago and it was an instant hit across the whole company.

This is just the tip of the iceberg and there is a lot of really cool, in-house products around generative AI. The team is going to great lengths to make this ethical and fair (try and generate a photo of a copyrighted character like Hello Kitty or Darth Vader). I'm excited to see the final product of all the internal work that has been going on for so long.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#82

Post by madeofpalk »

grondo4 wrote: post #75
madeofpalk wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should Github Copilot be trained on private, closed-source, proprietary code?

Yes, AI should be trained on every piece of information possible. Am I allowed to become a better programmer by looking at private, (illegally leaked) closed-source, proprietary code?

No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_room_design

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#83

Post by stravant »

LegitShady wrote: post #27

I wonder about how companies are approaching letting their customers understand what is and isn't copyrightable with the results of these ai models. The us copyright office has made it clear that elements of designs that lack human authorship cannot be copyrighted. A prompt is not enough - the same way if you provided a prompt to an artist while commissioning a work does not grant you copyright to that work. The resu…

I don't see how this will possibly be relevant.

AI generated content is about to sprint so far ahead of the existing legal framework that something will just have to give.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#84

Post by turnsout »

How long do we think this "big company gates access to an impressive AI model" moment will last?

I wonder if generative models will become such a commodity that they cease to be a revenue driver or differentiator.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#85

Post by capableweb »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #74
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you're missing a fundamental reason: adding AI functionality into products is simply easier. That is, these companies are largely not doing the hard part, which is creating and training these models in the first place. The examples you gave of of cloud and iPhone have both huge capital barriers to entry, and in iPhones case other phone companies just didn't have the unique design talent combination of Jobs an…

Adobe in particular, however, has been more twords the forefront of AI research. I'm pretty sure they aren't just using SD here. They might not even be using transformers at all. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35089661

They also have the resources to build a huge training set, together with people who willingly upload their art and photos to them, which they can use to make the training set better than publicly available data.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#86

Post by ModernMech »

petilon wrote: post #65
m3kw9 wrote: post #21

This will supercharge artists, it won’t replace them because details matter and when you need to get it just right, you cannot just keep rolling the dice by “prompting better”

Yes, but by "supercharging" artists, each artist will be able to do more, which means fewer artists will be needed.

Maybe, maybe not.

For instance, I'd like to make a game. But I don't have enough money to even hire an artist to help with concept art. So I don't get to the point where I can raise money off that art, and hire an artist to make game assets.

Now I can generate all the concept art I want for free, and I can raise money off of that (wallets open faster with pretty pictures than with words). What am I going to do with it? Hire artists! They will probably be better at using AI art generators than I am, and they have the skills to actually work with the generated results, unlike me.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#87

Post by exac »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #57
dopeboy wrote: post #11

What this reinforces is that unlike with previous big innovations (cloud, iphone, etc), incumbents will not sit on their laurels with the AI wave. They are aggressively integrating it into their products which (1) provides a relatively cheap step function upgrade and (2) keeps the barrier high for startups to use AI as their wedge. I attribute the speed at which incumbents are integrating AI into their products to a…

I think you're missing a fundamental reason: adding AI functionality into products is simply easier. That is, these companies are largely not doing the hard part, which is creating and training these models in the first place. The examples you gave of of cloud and iPhone have both huge capital barriers to entry, and in iPhones case other phone companies just didn't have the unique design talent combination of Jobs an…

I don't think they missed it, their second point is that the DX (developer experience) is good.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#88

Post by daveslash »

jonifico wrote: post #14

IMHO,it was only a matter of time before the big names started to include AI generations on their software. I'm guessing if most of the AI design tools that are being launched everyday and which relies mostly in consuming a public api could be easily absorbed?

People have been talking about things like ChatGPT Doing code, but I just realized... something like ChatGPT could be incorporated right into your IDE.

Think Clippy, for Code... "I see you're trying to write a recursive function to compute finocacci. Would you like help?"

Or Code Reviews / Static-Code-Analysis: "Hey Visual Studio. I've written a RESTful API for my application. What do you think of the approach, architecture, and adherence to best practices? What can I do to improve it?"

Or instead of scratching your head going "why doesn't this work?", just typing that question directly into your IDE....

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#89

Post by themodelplumber »

O__________O wrote: post #39

Possible this is not significant, appears that within the feature set is a text-to-vector image generator that produces editable vectors art. There’s no direct link I was able to find, but feature is listed here: https://firefly.adobe.com/ Is anyone aware of any similar open source or services that handle text-to-vector generative AI?

> services that handle text-to-vector generative AI

I think I used one...maybe Kittl or Illustroke. Not FOSS though. In the FOSS world there are some really brilliant tools like potrace at the very least. That one is still built into Inkscape, I believe.

Re: Adobe Firefly: AI Art Generator

#90

Post by MarcoZavala »

wongarsu wrote: post #46
dopeboy wrote: post #11

What this reinforces is that unlike with previous big innovations (cloud, iphone, etc), incumbents will not sit on their laurels with the AI wave. They are aggressively integrating it into their products which (1) provides a relatively cheap step function upgrade and (2) keeps the barrier high for startups to use AI as their wedge. I attribute the speed at which incumbents are integrating AI into their products to a…

Another point is that many of the incumbents have seen the trend for far longer than the general public, and had time to gather inhouse talent. For example this isn't Adobe's first stint into generative AI, back in 2016 they announced (and quietly dropped after the backlash) Adobe VoCo, "photoshop for voice".

[dead]
Post reply on HN