Given the number of times that Docker the company has rugged the community, I am highly pessimistic of their organization / paying them. I'd rather run my own registry.
We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
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#82What if the 0.1% of the users are the ones that you should deeply care for?
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#83It's almost becoming a cliche for companies to release damage control follow-ups like this after they pull a bait and switch. It's always "we're sorry that we didn't communicate our bait and switch effectively". Not we're sorry that we pulled a bait and switch. We're sorry you didn't understand the value in this bait and switch. It's your fault, actually. But we're sorry you're angry. Now stop giving us negative atte…
Ah, but there’s no such thing as negative press. Look how many people are talking about Docker now!!
> No such thing as negative press
Tell that to Silicon Valley Bank after that WSJ article that started the run lol
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Exactly ! I remember the original email mentioned deletion and now they say "we never said that". Time to get rid of Docker in our world.
With what?
If you want actual reproducable, actual portable software, Nix. Otherwise there are countless other OCI runtimes, cri-o, containers, etc. Kubernetes doesn't even use Docker.
What a thing, docker. I can't get over the staying power it has had despite... Everything.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#85It's almost becoming a cliche for companies to release damage control follow-ups like this after they pull a bait and switch. It's always "we're sorry that we didn't communicate our bait and switch effectively". Not we're sorry that we pulled a bait and switch. We're sorry you didn't understand the value in this bait and switch. It's your fault, actually. But we're sorry you're angry. Now stop giving us negative atte…
This is somewhat an extension of modern politics, which is largely seen by political professionals as a problem of "messaging", where policy details are secondary to how people can be persuaded to think about those policies.
Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#86Previous communication: > If you don't upgrade to a paid subscription, Docker will retain your organization data for 30 days, after which it will be subject to deletion. During that period you will maintain access to any of your public images. New communication: > We’d also like to clarify that public images will only be removed from Docker Hub if their maintainer decides to delete them. We’re sorry that our initial…
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Organizational gaslighting?
I personally hate the term “gaslighting”, but it could be apt here.
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#88So if it's only such a small amount of accounts, then surely it's barely a line item. Makes no sense, something doesn't add up here.
I would guess that those 2% of users account for more than 2% of the load on Docker Hub. Open source projects on a regular release cadence would push images more frequently than your average user, and those public images from the projects themselves were probably used in FROM statements more frequently than other images.
Sure. But what share of their users use those 2% images. Surely way more.
Also I don't think Docker grasps how much their users value a one way stop for pulling images of OSS.
It is a really stupid move.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
The forces of capitalism reward this, it will continue to happen as long as we pick pure capitalism as a system, and keep assigning values to companies purely on financials with no consideration toward their ability to empathize and communicate.
There's no such thing as "pure capitalism" – not if you're talking about things that exist. In an ideal free market with perfectly-rational omniscient actors, this issue wouldn't occur. I don't think you even need the omniscience: trust, memory, reputation/vouching and basic game theory should be sufficient (though I haven't proven this). Alternatively: a free market with contracts, where all things go through the sy…
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Re: We apologize. We did a terrible job announcing the end of Docker Free Teams
#90It's almost becoming a cliche for companies to release damage control follow-ups like this after they pull a bait and switch. It's always "we're sorry that we didn't communicate our bait and switch effectively". Not we're sorry that we pulled a bait and switch. We're sorry you didn't understand the value in this bait and switch. It's your fault, actually. But we're sorry you're angry. Now stop giving us negative atte…
This speaks to the product culture at Docker. They are unable to admit they are changing direction after negative customer feedback, so they are pretending this was always their plan, and shifting the blame to their customers.
It is similar to pseudo-blameless engineering cultures, where engineers won't admit to bugs, or update the status indicator, least they face the shame of writing a post mortem, or having it brought up in their performance review.