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And that's really the sad thing. If this pricing is too high for the business to be viable, it suggests that people would rather participate in surveillance capitalism than pay for privacy.
I think that's been clear since at least the early 2000s
I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
Sorry I don’t understand this POV. We know Kagi is losing money on that pricing. ( They have stated it multiple times ). They offer options to donate for those willing to help and chip in. They now updated the pricing model. They gave you extra 300 on top of their current pricing. The extra 600 search will only cost you $9 more, slightly more than what you tipped them. So what is wrong ? And you are supporting their…
With the old pricing, it's unlimited searches for 10$ a month. With the new pricing, you're now limited to 1000 for this price.
With 1k-2k searches a month, $10 seemed reasonable. However, $25 does not - it's far too much of a price increase. Most people here can already get same quality results from google with an ad blocker. I get that the service costs money, but for an end user, it's not really justifiable.
Kagi is a bit of a HN darling so I know I'm putting my neck out here, but even after trying the trial, I'm not sure what the value prop is. I would happily pay for a search engine that provided good results, but seeing as it's ostensibly Just Bing under the hood, I'm not sure what I get that I'm not getting from DDG or MetaGer + an ad blocker. Kagi doesn't strike me as a privacy alternative given that all my searches…
For the past 4-5 months I've kept three browser profiles, which I use simultaneously to compartmentalize things across work/personal/hobbies and to try out different browsers and search engines. I use Kagi on two of them and Brave Search on the other (I gave up on DDG as it disappointed me too often; Brave seems slightly better than vanilla Bing as they combine it with their own index). The difference in results qual…
But now I’m even more hesitant on Kagi since I knew it used bing, whose results both direct and from ddg have been supremely disappointing, but it also pulls google which…I can just get direct from the horse’s mouth? So the value add seems to be whatever is in their small index. Hmm I just dunno.
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> I'm sure Kagi's paying customers are paying for a reason No ads, blazing fast, and the search results are more than adequate for me (I don't find myself ever reaching for Google as I did with DDG). I'm not too bothered where the results come from when those three things come together. It's just the premium search experience I want. > all my searches are necessarily tied to a user id I know that theoretically Kagi c…
The alignment of incentives is not as tightly aligned as I'd like. Because Kagi has this data, they could be bought out by another company and release blog posts about how this merger is actually a harmonious union of privacy. A sinking ship with the livelihoods of many families on the line can easily convince leadership to sell. Having a distressed company bought out is not some special story, and things like this e…
I have to admit, I'm a bit disappointed by the mostly negative responses here, I wouldn't have thought this would be received as badly as it apparently is, by this here crowd. I haven't followed along that closely, but I dropped by their discord every once in a while, and from the discussions I saw I felt Kagi was as open as they could be, trying to communicate the upcoming change(s), why they are necessary, getting…
I thought people hate subscription model, yet there are enough people willing to pay a monthly fee for search that is only marginally better than free product? I'm really confused. At least Adobe products etc. are actually miles ahead of alternatives.
We are not a hivemind, I'll have you know. And it is much better than Google Search. I don't get bombarded with ads and the results are actually relevant. Google is noticeably worse for me unless I'm searching info on local businesses.
I wish there was a cheaper option without the AI feature (that is probably what costs them the most).
Not sure, and same as you: I don't want generative AI and I don't want to pay for it. I wish they made it clear that I won't have to.
Also I don't want to pay for their browser that I don't use. Really I'm interested in paying the true price for my searches (instead of being tracked for ads).
Ex searched DDG just now for “camp fire 2018” and only 1 of 10 results is dated. A lot happens in 5 years with lawsuits etc, I don’t want articles with updates from 2019!
I cancelled by Kagi subscription because of this. I don't want to have to pause before I search and think "do I need to search for this? should I look through my bookmarks, notes, etc? is this worth one of the 7 searches my $5 plan will cover for the day?". I've been a frequent user of Kagi for the past ~9 months. Last month I made 1600 searches. I've even 'tipped the difference' (~$70) in the past to support Kagi. I…
I think what becomes clear from this price increase is how expensive search is. Google seems to be free, but they are making a profit by gatekeeping the internet. If you offer a product or service, and you want people to find your restaurant, your hotel, your guided tour, your private tutoring lessons, or anything else, you pretty much have to pay Google. It's kinda like the Yellow Pages, except 100x more expensive.…
I'm using Kagi since they were in beta, but as soon as my subscription expires, I'm done...