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Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by capableweb »

aqme28 wrote: post #80
capableweb wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here is the same comments ordered by time rather than score: https://ditzes.com/item/35040763 (you can also go directly to https://ditzes.com/item/35040763#item-35041285 and scroll upwards, every comment above that one was made before it) You can clearly see that there are mentions about Musk before Vermeulen made their comment. (also, you can hover the "N minutes/hours ago" and see the timestamp on HN too, which aga…

Why do you need me to prove this to you? Here’s my view: https://ibb.co/W2kvvmz You can “clearly see” that this musk comment is third.

You said "this point in time, yours is the first comment to mention him"

I took "First" to mean in time, not order of the page. I guess I understood you wrong, because if you're talking about time, their comment was not the first to mention Musk. But I guess if you mean "first" as in "highest on the page", then you're right that it's higher up.

But as you know, comments are not ordered by time, but time + score, but somehow this point seems to be lost while crossing through the wires.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by aqme28 »

capableweb wrote: post #81
aqme28 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need me to prove this to you? Here’s my view: https://ibb.co/W2kvvmz You can “clearly see” that this musk comment is third.

You said "this point in time, yours is the first comment to mention him" I took "First" to mean in time, not order of the page. I guess I understood you wrong, because if you're talking about time, their comment was not the first to mention Musk. But I guess if you mean "first" as in "highest on the page", then you're right that it's higher up. But as you know, comments are not ordered by time, but time + score, but…

You're relaying something I said earlier because you didn't read my comment that you responded to. "The comments are arranged based on score and time posted. They're not going to be the same for every user who visits the page."

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by mgiannopoulos »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #68
mgiannopoulos wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FSD is not available to the general public. It’s beta, can be used by customers who select to do so.

I guess my concern with this is the FSD, while not technically available to the general public, is still going to effect the general public given that if it's a buggy beta test it'll be buggy on public roads.

A buggy beta does not equal a buggy release. Generally speaking bugs are fixed prior to release.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

mgiannopoulos wrote: post #83
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess my concern with this is the FSD, while not technically available to the general public, is still going to effect the general public given that if it's a buggy beta test it'll be buggy on public roads.

A buggy beta does not equal a buggy release. Generally speaking bugs are fixed prior to release.

But it's in beta right now for specific cars who use it to drive around on the public roads?

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

lnsru wrote: post #36
wheelerof4te wrote: post #9

Too much hate here. It's surprising how quicly people jumped from "Elon is the genius" to "Elon is a fraud and a liar".

There is nothing surprising. Elon is for a very long time on the scene. You must be a really good performer not fail during 2 decade long show. I don’t mind Tesla’s poor self driving, Tesla Model X is really cool vehicle (with some design flaws, but it’s ok). My personal turning point was calling a diver “pedo”. After all he’s just another mega rich guy totally decoupled from reality.

Yeah, the "pedo" bit did it for me too. It's when it became obvious how petty and fragile the man was. He wasn't willing to accept criticism of his unsolicited terrible idea (his scuba coffin things) and angrily lashed out at a domain expert who said as much.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by mgiannopoulos »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #84
mgiannopoulos wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A buggy beta does not equal a buggy release. Generally speaking bugs are fixed prior to release.

But it's in beta right now for specific cars who use it to drive around on the public roads?

So are tons of legally driving humans who are incompetent, drunk, etc.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by capableweb »

aqme28 wrote: post #82
capableweb wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said "this point in time, yours is the first comment to mention him" I took "First" to mean in time, not order of the page. I guess I understood you wrong, because if you're talking about time, their comment was not the first to mention Musk. But I guess if you mean "first" as in "highest on the page", then you're right that it's higher up. But as you know, comments are not ordered by time, but time + score, but…

You're relaying something I said earlier because you didn't read my comment that you responded to. "The comments are arranged based on score and time posted. They're not going to be the same for every user who visits the page."

Ok, you're still not getting it. Yes, if you just look from top to bottom, you're not seeing the chronological order of when comments happened. When you say "you made the first comment" you're implying "first" in the chronological order.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by lawn »

anotherman554 wrote: post #59
lawn wrote: post #58

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That normal people vote for him does not imply that he himself is normal.

I'm guessing the vast majority of people who voted for him don't believe he has a personality disorder. While I admit I'm making an assumption, if I'm correct I'd say that makes him "normal." Ultimately, if you are what people think of as "normal" you are normal.

I don't think the definition of normal is what other people think of you, rather it's if you act like other people which Trump does not do.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by anotherman554 »

lawn wrote: post #88
anotherman554 wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing the vast majority of people who voted for him don't believe he has a personality disorder. While I admit I'm making an assumption, if I'm correct I'd say that makes him "normal." Ultimately, if you are what people think of as "normal" you are normal.

I don't think the definition of normal is what other people think of you, rather it's if you act like other people which Trump does not do.

Acting differently from other people could mean you are a poet, an astronaut, or a race car driver. But in the mental health context you are only abnormal if people think you are.

Re: Musk’s bid to start Neuralink human trials denied by FDA in 2022, report says

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

mgiannopoulos wrote: post #86
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's in beta right now for specific cars who use it to drive around on the public roads?

So are tons of legally driving humans who are incompetent, drunk, etc.

Drunk is not legally driving.
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