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Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by rom-antics » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

nerdjon wrote: post #62

tyingq wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, though, the lightsail instances that are subject to oppressive throttling aren't really a good comparison. Those should be dirt cheap, as they are useless if you use them in almost any real fashion.

I had some personal projects a while ago that I used to run on Linode, I later moved them to LightSail and I never noticed any performance difference in these projects running there. These were Ruby on Rails projects.

Lightsail are among the worst when it comes to actual benchmarks. Though you might not notice if your apps aren't very resource demanding.

Their fastest instance type is still in the bottom ~15% of this list for example: https://www.vpsbenchmarks.com/screener

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by bananapub » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

as a customer for nearly twenty years (!), I think this is actually the first time they've ever raised prices. I'd been meaning to move away ever since Akamai bought them but I guess this is a good nudge.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by Arch-TK » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:47 PM UTC

Welp, time to move the first piece of my infrastructure (and the only piece currently hosted on Linode) to a different provider. It has been almost 9 years now I think with the prices remaining basically the same. I started in 2014 with a Linode 1024 and now have a Linode 2GB (all through free upgrades, I believe the disk and ram have been doubled since I bought it). But now there seems to be no real reason to stay with Linode.

I guess I might as well update my methods too and automate some of this while I'm at it.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by schemescape » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:48 PM UTC

markstos wrote: post #68

corobo wrote: post #20

> Akamai faces the same macroeconomic headwinds of growing costs for data center space, energy, and hardware as other providers. We resisted making any changes to our offerings for as long as we could. Bro it's only been 2 weeks

I've been paying the same price for my Linode server for about 10 years. This seems fair.

Have the server specs changed? If not, then I’d expect it to get cheaper, just like the hardware.

Edit: other comments imply they’ve been improving the provided specs, so my comment might not be relevant.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:49 PM UTC

csnover wrote: post #34

The message being sent to customers claims that they “remain more aggressively priced than our peer providers”, which is nonsense as far as I can tell—unless they now consider their “peer providers” to be the likes of AWS, Azure, and GCP? Hetzner Cloud’s price is ~40% of Linode’s new price[0], OVHcloud ~50–60%[1], and Vultr ~80%[2]. Of the big-name VPS providers, I think only DigitalOcean is more expensive now[3], an…

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Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by ethicalsmacker » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:50 PM UTC

dan1234 wrote: post #33

ethicalsmacker wrote: post #23

I can't seem to find if this will affect me...I currently pay $600 per-month for $480 shared instance w/$120 backups. Looks like this is going to cost me an additional $1440/year for... nothing. Anyone have a recommended alternative to Linope?

According to the ticket I got, the VPSes are going up 20% but the backup price isn't changing, so your new bill will be around $696/mo, an increase of $1,152/yr. The main alternatives in the budget cloud space are Digital Ocean, Vultr, OvH etc - they're all similarly priced for the equivalent servers, but I wouldn't be surprised if they all start increasing their prices to match - DO especially as they recently laid…

Thanks-- at least they are not increasing the backup costs.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by LinuxBender » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:53 PM UTC

cfiggers wrote: post #25

LinuxBender wrote: post #7

I've been a customer of Linode since about the time they were created. I've also been a customer of Akamai in the past. Based on my experience with Akamai I was expecting this to happen just was not sure when it would. My personal strategy to mitigate cost spikes is to have accounts with numerous VPS providers as that does not cost anything and to re-balance my nodes based on uptime, performance and cost. I found tha…

I would definitely read a blog write-up of any length on this, if you either already have or would be interested at all in making one.

This is probably not the answer you are looking for but I don't have a blog on this. For what it's worth there are existing blogs that talk about managing instances on multiple VPS providers with Ansible. I would actually defer to the proper devops people here that probably have their favorite write-ups on this topic since I basically fumbled my way through it. Some VPS providers have written Ansible plugins that integrate with their API's and some do not which just means spinning up nodes has to be done in their web interface ahead of time and setting up the SSH key trusts. For the ones that do that just means setting shell environment variables that contain the API token and calling their plugin. Linode has an Ansible plugin.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by ilaksh » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:55 PM UTC

ethicalsmacker wrote: post #79

ilaksh wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Linode has been such a great deal. Had been. I think the trick to saving money might be to find out how much RAM and CPU you actually need. If you really need the 20 cores and 96GB of RAM or whatever then that's another thing.

I could do with fewer cores, but the memory (and most importantly, the disk space) has been critical for me). When I compare alternatives, it seems pretty bleak.

Smaller instance + block storage?

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by karlshea » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:56 PM UTC

corobo wrote: post #80

karlshea wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since the name change. To be fair, they bought Linode a year ago.

Huh. Well damn, so they did. The acquisition didn't hit my radar till the name change. Admittedly not a Linode customer. DigitalOcean did me a solid about 5 years ago (support gave me a credit voucher to cover a month when I couldn't afford to renew in time to keep things online) and I've had no reason to look elsewhere. Fingers crossed their recent corner cutting doesn't ruin things.

I’ve been a customer for over a decade, and have had a bunch of clients sign up for hosting.

20% increase after no price increases ever seems reasonable, but I’m going to be looking around for alternatives to recommend if things start to decline.

Re: Linode increases price of compute plans and more

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Post by antoineMoPa » Wed, Mar 01, 2023, 4:58 PM UTC

marcosdumay wrote: post #40

calcifer wrote: post #3

I've been a Linode customer for almost 15 years. As far as I remember, this is their first price increase ever . No surprise it happened post-acquisition :(

I've been a customer since 2011 (moved away a couple of years ago). Even though they didn't increase their nominal prices, my prices raised steadily during all that time. Usually with some minor amount of extra resources added without me requesting them. Also, most of the time, reverting the increases would take renegotiating things with support. Recently, it changed into requiring destroying my machines and creating…

> Even though they didn't increase their nominal prices, my prices raised steadily during all that time. Usually with some minor amount of extra resources added without me requesting them.

This is strange, I've been a customer for a long time and never noticed that.