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Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by t0bia_s »

bondant wrote: post #80
beached_whale wrote: post #31

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It is illegal for license plates in some places. But I cannot see a free country doing that for people walking or even people inside vehicals.

Well I don't know if you would consider France a free country or not, but it is illegal to hide your face in public space in France (unless it's for medical reasons or for a special event and so on). So I guess hiding your face from the face recognition system would be also illegal. https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F21613

I wasn't long time ago wearing a mask mandatory on many places. So I guess it would be fine to cover face "because of fear from covid"?

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by laci37 »

_V_ wrote: post #66
hypertele-Xii wrote: post #63

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Apparently it does, positive ones! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34609625

Yeah in "normal amounts" - basically what body expects from the sun. :) I have not calculated the power output of those LEDs, I merely pointed out the fact that I don't think healt consequences should be completely overlooked by just saying "meh, it's like red, no worries"...

Does your face feel warm, when the sun shines on it? Would it feel warm from a handful of low power IR LEDs? I doubt it. People underestimate the power of sunshine.

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by lolinder »

trieste92 wrote: post #50
lolinder wrote: post #27

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Yep. It's similar to people who count on crypto to solve government interference in finance. You can't solve a culture of pervasive government surveillance by inventing new tech, because that tech will just be outlawed or regulated to death (see the UK online safety bill). You have to change the culture that makes governments think they have the right to see everything.

> You can't solve a culture of pervasive government surveillance by inventing new tech, because that tech will just be outlawed or regulated to death I call bs. New regulation moves slower that the rate at which people can find workarounds

Sure, a few people will always do that, skirting the borders of the law. But I don't want a situation where 99% of the population is constantly surveilled while 1% finds workarounds. I want to solve the problem, I want surveillance to die in the mainstream, and in this space new regulation moves faster than mainstream adoption of new tech.

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by steponlego »

walterbell wrote: post #47
steponlego wrote: post #45

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GPT post?

Said the fly (karma:158, age:75d) to the spider (karma:78244, age:5000d).

Whoa - that's a heck'in LOT of updoots.

I actually kill my accounts after a couple months on every service and start over with a new nym. I don't want the (increasingly automated) cyber stalkers to have an easy time of it. Old cypherpunk trick from the 1990s.

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by pickovven »

pythonguython wrote: post #77
pickovven wrote: post #67

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People who obscure their license plates should have their cars impounded and licenses revoked. If you don't think traffic enforcement applies to you, you're welcome to use transit, walk or bike.

Maybe people don’t want their movement tracked and stored in a database. Any officer can clock their speed with a radar gun or give them a ticket for violating any of the hundreds of laws in the motor vehicle code, so I don’t think someone that obscures their license plate is of the impression that they’re above traffic enforcement.

"People don't want their movement tracked" "Any officer can clock their speed" At least have the integrity and honesty to admit you just don't want to pay tickets for speeding or parking illegally.

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Post by pickovven »

moremetadata wrote: post #75
pickovven wrote: post #67

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People who obscure their license plates should have their cars impounded and licenses revoked. If you don't think traffic enforcement applies to you, you're welcome to use transit, walk or bike.

> People who obscure their license plates should have their cars impounded and licenses revoked People pay tax on the fuel, pay tax on the car, pay tax on the parts and servicing, yet you want the state to be able to identify the vehicles? How many deaths and injuries do the vehicles cause in comparison to other deaths and injuries? Take the NRA and shooter deaths and injuries, or even knife crime, those people dont…

Is your "privacy stolen" when you register your vehicle? If you were so worried about privacy you wouldn't have a vehicle.

Just admit you don't have a problem with privacy. You have a problem with automated enforcement.

And yes automated enforcement reduces deaths and injuries. That's a well documented and proven fact. Indulging your paranoia and personal consumer preferences is not worth a single injury or death.

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Post by landemva »

pickovven wrote: post #87
moremetadata wrote: post #75

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> People who obscure their license plates should have their cars impounded and licenses revoked People pay tax on the fuel, pay tax on the car, pay tax on the parts and servicing, yet you want the state to be able to identify the vehicles? How many deaths and injuries do the vehicles cause in comparison to other deaths and injuries? Take the NRA and shooter deaths and injuries, or even knife crime, those people dont…

Is your "privacy stolen" when you register your vehicle? If you were so worried about privacy you wouldn't have a vehicle. Just admit you don't have a problem with privacy. You have a problem with automated enforcement. And yes automated enforcement reduces deaths and injuries. That's a well documented and proven fact. Indulging your paranoia and personal consumer preferences is not worth a single injury or death.

> Is your "privacy stolen" when you register your vehicle?

No because these are in trusts or LLCs. This makes it difficult to tie a car to a specific driver license in an automated manner.

Many people are too busy checking social media to do the necessary to protect privacy.

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by walterbell »

steponlego wrote: post #85
walterbell wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Said the fly (karma:158, age:75d) to the spider (karma:78244, age:5000d).

Whoa - that's a heck'in LOT of updoots. I actually kill my accounts after a couple months on every service and start over with a new nym. I don't want the (increasingly automated) cyber stalkers to have an easy time of it. Old cypherpunk trick from the 1990s.

For the young'uns in the audience, is there a good primer on defense against cyberstalkingbots?

Re: Unidentified Halo, an anti-surveillance wearable project

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Post by pythonguython »

pickovven wrote: post #86
pythonguython wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe people don’t want their movement tracked and stored in a database. Any officer can clock their speed with a radar gun or give them a ticket for violating any of the hundreds of laws in the motor vehicle code, so I don’t think someone that obscures their license plate is of the impression that they’re above traffic enforcement.

"People don't want their movement tracked" "Any officer can clock their speed" At least have the integrity and honesty to admit you just don't want to pay tickets for speeding or parking illegally.

It is well established that the US government conducts mass surveillance on its population. I don’t know what government surveillance is like where you’re from. I actually prefer a world where humans enforce laws rather than automated systems (in general). While officers aren’t perfect, they can use their own discretion to enforce laws and that sounds better to me than living in a world with cameras watching us and instantly fining us for infractions. I personally don’t obscure my own license plate, but I believe someone who does, can do so for privacy purposes without lacking integrity or honesty.
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