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Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

JellyBeanThief wrote: post #23
bXVsbGVy wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Pregnant Person" is another, different, variant! https://emojipedia.org/pregnant-person/ https://emojipedia.org/pregnant-man/ https://emojipedia.org/pregnant-woman/

Right. Because the system is to have woman, man, and neutral for everything. Saves debate for more important things.

But that's not the system. They should be sticking to consistently using the ZWJ + gender to modify a base emoji and they aren't. Consuming three codepoints when one will do is silly.

Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by kelseyfrog »

letsbehonest1 wrote: post #79
kelseyfrog wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like how eggplant and peach emoji are used for representing things other than fruit and vegetables, I'd expect pregnant man to find its own niche in time. It doesn't take a genius to guess that it will be used by a lot of guys who just ate an enormous burrito.

Why is it appropriate for you to suggest how guys will use that emoji, but it’d be wrong for me to suggest how girls may learn to use a different emoji? This is not how the guys I know use this emoji, btw.

Who's saying it's inappropriate? You might want to ask them why.

P.S. To get the joke, you have to be familiar with this specific tweet from almost year ago https://twitter.com/jeremyburge/status/1503921387484114944?l... I guess you had to be there.

Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by toastal »

I like that they have stopped accepting flag proposals. They don't have any business trying to play geopolitics and they don't want to either, but as a result these legacy symbol must stay there for compatibility and new nations or those that didn't make the cut get no representation. We should use these flags a lot less anyhow—especially for language indicators.

Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by bentobean »

sigzero wrote: post #61
a1371 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look up proposal L2/20-190. They provide a number of good reasons for pregnant man. To summarize: - It avoids gender stereotyping of men in Parenthood. - couples say "we are pregnant". The term pregnant is culturally used for men too as their search shows. - the emoji is not just for pregnancy, it is also for feeling bloated, full, and hungry. I sometimes used this emoji for saying that I'm expecting something. My pa…

Except all of those things is NOT what the actual emoji conveys.

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Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by 1101010010 »

I have made a conscious commitment to stop all use of emojis. They seem innocent enough, but ultimately they're debasing language and limiting the range of free expression. For example, in 2018, most major platforms changed their revolver emojis to water gun icons, in an apparent attempt to "do something" about gun violence. This would be a laughable proposition if it didn't border on dystopian. We should not allow these corrupt companies and consortiums to dictate our capabilities of conveying ourselves based on their political ideologies. Orwell understood well vagueness and use of euphemisms as powerful tools of oppressing political opposition, and wrote beautifully of it in Politics and the English Language (1946).

Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by bentobean »

muzani wrote: post #74
bXVsbGVy wrote: post #6

I find fascinating that many of those were rejected, but "Pregnant man" and male bride were approved. https://emojipedia.org/pregnant-man/ https://emojiguide.com/people-body/man-with-veil/

"It is time for the UTC to own up to their mistakes. This whole ordeal has gone on for way too long. I am not asking for much; the solution to this problem is laughably easy. The current gender situation in Unicode is discriminatory, end of discussion. It excludes transgender people by pretending that only women can get pregnant. It excludes non-binary people by treating the third gender option as secondary to male a…

> “by pretending that only women can get pregnant.”

Only women can be impregnated. Stating otherwise does not make it so.

Re: Rejected emoji proposals

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Post by bentobean »

kelseyfrog wrote: post #45
bXVsbGVy wrote: post #6

I find fascinating that many of those were rejected, but "Pregnant man" and male bride were approved. https://emojipedia.org/pregnant-man/ https://emojiguide.com/people-body/man-with-veil/

Just like how eggplant and peach emoji are used for representing things other than fruit and vegetables, I'd expect pregnant man to find its own niche in time. It doesn't take a genius to guess that it will be used by a lot of guys who just ate an enormous burrito.

You make a compelling argument. I have reconsidered my position and am now on board with the pregnant man emoji.
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