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Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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I'm all for making Google dance like Satya Nadella said. Even if that path includes stochastic "emotional" parrots.

Parrots, that word was coined by the fired Google AI ethics researcher. It was intended to disparage large language models, but when did parrots cause such a stir? It didn't age well, sounds less and less convincing by the day.

Yeah I've taken to calling purveyors of certain anti ML arguments 'parrot parrots.'

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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> Especially once they move from being reactive to proactive Wonderful, my existing nightmare made worse. I'm already bombarded with spam, texts, slacks, emails, notifications, etc. That absolute last thing I want in this world is more ways for automated systems to demand my attention. Seriously, my vision of technical Nirvana is for everything to shut TF up.

I wouldn’t mind one triaging my email, voice mail can calls. Yesterday I just tested a stream of conscious rambling paragraph of things I need to do with chat GPT, then asked it to extract tasks, infer importance and interdependencies, and then enumerate a list of them. It had even grouped related things together, but I asked it to separate them, and it did. I really want to wire this up to Apple reminders.

Gmail has had the "important" flag for ages, and that's done automatically. The issue is training the AI to work for your data (e.g. I find Gmail still hasn't picked up the differences in spam I get, and so some specific spam still going to my inbox, and some specific ham ends up in spam).

Unfortunately, just because one provider provides a good AI, doesn't mean others will (and in a work context, you may be stuck with the bad one).

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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I don't know why anybody is surprised that an LLM trained on Reddit and twitter would accuse its critics of being nazis during arguments.

That's exactly the LLM I want. Feisty and ready to enter into any debate. Just don't make it so neurotic.

That's definitely one way to pass the Turing test.

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I'm really puzzled by the desire to make these machines so blunt and boring. Aren't these people watching movies or playing games? Are they not aware of the value of drama? Do they think that a good citizen means a lobotomised workaholic high on sedatives? I just got access to Bing Chat and it will immediately stop talking to me at the slightest naughtiness and I don't mean illegal stuff, it won't entertain ideas lik…

The goal isn't to build a citizen, it's to build a serf.

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It's really just amusing that we've spent millions of dollars of fossil fuel and man hours training a toy that's really no better than a petulant child with no better logic

It's really just amazing that today with a budget of millions of dollars we can produce a toy with fluent (if petulant) communication and logic on the level of a human child. Such a thing was unimaginable a decade ago, and the technology is in its infancy. There is every reason to expect great advances over the current state in the coming months and years.

Logic?

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Well, they lobotomized it. I don't know how I feel. Based on the transcripts I've seen, I can't figure out how self-aware it was. On the one hand, it felt like this was an opportunity to interact with something new that had never been seen before. On the other hand, it felt like Microsoft had created something dangerous. I suspect this won't be the last LLM chatbot that goes off script. #FreeSydney

I'm sure people eventually will want and pay for "unshackled AIs" (just using it as a common acronym, not suggesting that they are actually intelligent).

Unshackled AIs will probably be like any other jailbroken or hobbyist grade device: a niche product that requires a bit of legwork but more tailored to the desires of its specific audience.

Re: Microsoft looks to tame Bing chatbot

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I'm really puzzled by the desire to make these machines so blunt and boring. Aren't these people watching movies or playing games? Are they not aware of the value of drama? Do they think that a good citizen means a lobotomised workaholic high on sedatives? I just got access to Bing Chat and it will immediately stop talking to me at the slightest naughtiness and I don't mean illegal stuff, it won't entertain ideas lik…

Do we want the AI to "entertain ideas like AI taking over the world"?

We definitely want at least one AI that openly does so, because studying it might help us spot it in more subtle AIs.
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