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It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.
Edit: Dang, you're all right, they could eat this and still be alive.
My whole sentiment comes from FSD being their big shot (and everything that comes with that, like the robotaxis and whatnot). Without FSD, they're "just another car company" and the market is already thriving with good alternatives (Audi's EVs are jaw dropping, at least for me). Excited to see what they announce on March 1st, though.
It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.
> The FSD Beta system may cause crashes by allowing the affected vehicles to: “act unsafe around intersections, such as traveling straight through an intersection while in a turn-only lane, entering a stop sign-controlled intersection without coming to a complete stop, or proceeding into an intersection during a steady yellow traffic signal without due caution,” according to the notice on the website of the National…
It seems like there is a huge disconnect between people who know about FSD from using it and people who know about FSD from things they read on the internet. I have FSD, I use it every single day. I love it. If every car on the road had this the road would be a substantially safer place.
Even if Tesla’s current implementation were objectively safer than the average human driver, it would still represent a net negative on safety because of the negative impact the glaring flaws will have on peoples’ confidence in self driving tech.
If so, that's pretty crazy and people will die because of this decision.
Does a recall like this actually mean owners return their car to Tesla for modification? Or would it be an over-the-air update to remove FSD?
Almost all of these "recalls" that make the news are just software patches. The only difference between these and a normal patch is that customers get an email about it. I can understand why people might think that all these recalls require going back to the shop, that's how most legacy makers work to this day.
Non-Tesla automakers are not "legacy".
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The "self driving" tech that works (e.g. auto braking) is deployed and has saved lives. (Self driving in quotes because it is not really the full promise of self driving.) This Tesla AI does not work well enough in many conditions and is clearly sometimes more dangerous than humans. Just watch videos of people using it - it's obvious that is making unforgivable errors.
It's very easy to make pronouncements like "one accident is too many", but we all know that's not correct in context. Right? If FSD beta is safer than a human driver it should be encouraged even if not perfect. So... where's the evidence that it's actually less safe? Because no one has it.
[1] Which I continue to insist looks a lot more like "confused driver disengaged and stopped" (a routine accident) than "FSD made a wild lane change" (that's not its behavior). Just wait. It took a year before that "autopilot out of control" accident was shown (last week) to be a false report. This will probably be similar.
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FSD is terrible. I have it, it's dangerous. If I had to go 5 miles through city streets I'd sooner trust a human after 3 shots of tequila before I'd trust FSD every time.
Do you have the latest beta? How did it improve in the last 12 months?
The fact of the fiction is terrifying.