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Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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> “Any Temple employee that decides to strike forfeits their pay and complete benefits package,” explained Temple University senior vice president and chief operating officer Ken Kaiser. Here's the problem -- that's a business solution. This decision is intended to benefit Temple the business, not the Temple the university. The administration is too busy filing TPS reports to realize that they're curating something a…

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Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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> “Any Temple employee that decides to strike forfeits their pay and complete benefits package,” explained Temple University senior vice president and chief operating officer Ken Kaiser. Here's the problem -- that's a business solution. This decision is intended to benefit Temple the business, not the Temple the university. The administration is too busy filing TPS reports to realize that they're curating something a…

But it is a business. We are not talking about a YouTube channel of lecturers, we are talking about an organization with 2.7 billion dollars of annual revenue.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This (see below) seems to be the problem - students are being forced to pay for something that was originally gratis (punished) because they are protesting about something. That is not normally how a liberal democracy works. We don't punish requests for comments, we engage ... ================================================= Dear Temple Student: As a result of your participation in the TUGSA strike, your tuition rem…

But look at this closely, with engagement. Currently, they are on strike, so tuition remissions cannot be issued. If that remains the case until March 6th, they will need to pay. If the strike is resolved before March 6th, and then they still refuse to issue the remissions, that would be a significant violation.

Actually they are saying the remission will not be issued even if they end the strike now. They are claiming they gave them fair warning.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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I'm a bit confused - striking workers don't normally retain pay and benefits. I don't understand what would make graduate students any different?

If they were being punished just for organizing or demonstrating it would probably be a different matter. But I think the University probably has good legal standing here to say "we're just not compensating them for work they didn't do".

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you point to some of those Twitter comments? I'm honestly curious of which labor laws they are violating. For example, I just did a search regarding healthcare for striking workers, and there is no federal law that prevents cancelling healthcare, to the point that some congresspeople have introduced bills in the last year to specifically outlaw that (but, to emphasize, those are just bills, they haven't been pass…

Original note below the line. Unfortunately, as pointed out by tptacek [0]: > The wrinkle is that Temple's employees are public-sector employees, who are exempt from the NLRA --- but they're not necessarily exempt from equivalent Philadelphia law. tptacek appears to be correct [1]. That said, there is a Pennsylvanian 1970 "Public Employe Relations Act" that could cover unfair practices including retaliation but I can…

Pretty sure that's referring to benefits/pay for strikers after they have returned to work.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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To be honest, I don't really get the point of the strike.

The grad students are not only getting a free education, they're also getting paid a stipend on top of that. Grad students tend to have extremely flexible schedules, freedom to pursue their intellectual interests, the ability to attend seminars and travel to conferences, etc.

At least in STEM fields, anyone in grad school probably could have gotten a higher-paying job in industry, but chose to attend grad school, knowing the tradeoffs, because it's what they wanted to do with their life.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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> “Any Temple employee that decides to strike forfeits their pay and complete benefits package,” explained Temple University senior vice president and chief operating officer Ken Kaiser. Here's the problem -- that's a business solution. This decision is intended to benefit Temple the business, not the Temple the university. The administration is too busy filing TPS reports to realize that they're curating something a…

My Alma-Mater, more interested in hiring administrators than new professors, or even retaining full time professors.

Schools a joke, especially this one.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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Bone headed move. They must have miscalculated if they think the students will cave to this pressure. Also, how can they take away tuition reimbursement for the whole semester if the strike hasnt been that long? Garbage administration. I hope the students win and that this isnt the new normal.

Many grad students are pretty much completely at the mercy of their advisor and university. Grad students are also very disposable, and, normally, prospective new students will have no idea of the wronged-student body count of any advisor or university. One exception, in this case, is you have a group of students in the US national news , so it might be harder for this university to get grad students in the near futu…

> Many grad students are pretty much completely at the mercy of their advisor and university.

If your advisor is sympathetic, there's nothing that prevents you from continuing to work on your thesis. If you still have coursework, then you're probably out of luck, but if you're ABD, then you might be just fine. But that would require a sympathetic advisor.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are reports from strikers trying to refill medication that the medical benefit suspension has already unilaterally gone into effect. The university has gone ahead with their threats in that regard (which is especially shitty since it's pretty standard in the US to give employees a health insurance grace period on termination). I am really confused about what the university thinks they're going to get out of the…

I'm confused by that. When my health care ends by termination (of any flavor), I can continue to use that policy number and card for some time. I can then sign up for COBRA and continue my coverage using the same cards. Perhaps there's something else at play, but very strange to suddenly not be able to fill prescriptions.

That's interesting, every time I've left a job the insurance was canceled more or less instantly.

Re: Temple Student Strike Turns Ugly as School Ends Some Tuition Aid

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post #24

Matching tshirts and signs for a decent sized group aren't cheap. I see stuff like this often in protests. Who pays?

The union does. That's one of the things your union dues go towards.

Few unions today have enough money for that. The UAW, maybe.
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