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GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by scarface74 »

kristiandupont wrote: post #79
scarface74 wrote: post #71

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Have you known of any company of any size to go out of business because one person left? I assure you that if any of us got hit by a bus tomorrow, the company would send our next of kin flowers along with “thoughts and prayers” and have an open req for our position before our body got cold. Three months later, you would only see our name brought up in the occasional “git blame”

By your definition, the only way someone "cares" about another person is if they are prepared to suffer any and every possible loss to protect said person from harm?

You mean like laying people off so the company doesn’t go out of business?

Whether the company “cares” about me is irrelevant. I need for them to put money in my account at the agreed upon intervals. I have family that “cares” about me.

Thought experiment: if the company you worked for that you thought “cared about you” told you they couldn’t pay you would that care be reciprocated and would you work for free? A 30% pay cut?

Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by kristiandupont »

scarface74 wrote: post #81
kristiandupont wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By your definition, the only way someone "cares" about another person is if they are prepared to suffer any and every possible loss to protect said person from harm?

You mean like laying people off so the company doesn’t go out of business? Whether the company “cares” about me is irrelevant. I need for them to put money in my account at the agreed upon intervals. I have family that “cares” about me. Thought experiment: if the company you worked for that you thought “cared about you” told you they couldn’t pay you would that care be reciprocated and would you work for free? A 30%…

You state (or at least imply) that the fact that a company is not willing to go out of business to avoid firing someone is proof that they don't care about that person. All I can say is that you seem to have a reductionist definition of the word "care". I also wouldn't expect my friends to, say, sell their house to support me if I needed it.

Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by scarface74 »

kristiandupont wrote: post #82
scarface74 wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like laying people off so the company doesn’t go out of business? Whether the company “cares” about me is irrelevant. I need for them to put money in my account at the agreed upon intervals. I have family that “cares” about me. Thought experiment: if the company you worked for that you thought “cared about you” told you they couldn’t pay you would that care be reciprocated and would you work for free? A 30%…

You state (or at least imply) that the fact that a company is not willing to go out of business to avoid firing someone is proof that they don't care about that person. All I can say is that you seem to have a reductionist definition of the word "care". I also wouldn't expect my friends to, say, sell their house to support me if I needed it.

I’m saying whether the company cares about me is irrelevant. The “care” from my company is not where they exist in my hierarchy of needs. That’s what my family is for. They exist solely to provide money to support my need for food and shelter.

My wife “cares” about me and I her. I know for a fact that she would make sacrifices for me even it put her in a bad spot temporarily.

I’ll leave my job at the drop of a dime and they will get rid of me as soon as they see my contribution to the bottom line isn’t beneficial to them. I would hope that the bar would be much higher for my marriage - ie “the person I want to care about me”

Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by scarface74 »

officialchicken wrote: post #80
scarface74 wrote: post #27

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Really? You think any employer “cares about their employees”? A job is a transaction a way for me to trade labor for money and support ny addiction to food and shelter. It’s my responsibility to save accordingly always expecting a lay off. This has been my mindset since I was 22 years old making 11/hour as a computer operator saving my overtime pay until today at 49 where I stumbled into a role at $BigTech three year…

Yes, I do. I really do care. And I know there are other founders and hiring managers who care too (except HR, they only care about the business). re: walking uphill barefoot in snow both ways, attitude towards a financial plan is not your career; it has little to do with those who work around you.

It doesn’t matter if you “care” as a founder if you accepted VC money.

So do you “care” enough to put your company’s survival and well being beneath the needs of your employees? Do you think your employees “care” enough not to take a much better offer it becomes available? If your investors told you you need to increase your runway to stay in business would you?

I know that the people in my personal life who “care about me” will make all sorts of sacrifices for me and financial trade offs

Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by vrc »

phphphphp wrote: post #15
TOMDM wrote: post #10

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I've literally never heard about sexism directed their way, but given you worked there I'm sure you know better the story of treatment they get. What was the sexism, who was it directed against and why do you reckon they recieved it? The only experience I have with GoDaddy is their awful support, and predatory practices. Ditching them has been the biggest single improvement to our IT practice.

GoDaddy's entire brand presence was based on objectification of women for their early life. After GoDaddy's founder Bob left, it got better. Bob was a character and arguably the entire reason for the insane brand -- strange, strange man.

It was Barbara Rechter (I think that’s her name) who was CMO that changed the name from Jomax Technologies to GoDaddy and spearheaded the logo and ad campaigns. But Bob threw the best corporate holiday parties. All employees and their +1s flow out for 2 nights to Phoenix. One year they rented out Diamondbacks Stadium, had Daddy Yankee and Pitbull perform, and gave away 10+ cars. Fun times

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scarface74 wrote: post #83
kristiandupont wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You state (or at least imply) that the fact that a company is not willing to go out of business to avoid firing someone is proof that they don't care about that person. All I can say is that you seem to have a reductionist definition of the word "care". I also wouldn't expect my friends to, say, sell their house to support me if I needed it.

I’m saying whether the company cares about me is irrelevant . The “care” from my company is not where they exist in my hierarchy of needs. That’s what my family is for. They exist solely to provide money to support my need for food and shelter. My wife “cares” about me and I her. I know for a fact that she would make sacrifices for me even it put her in a bad spot temporarily. I’ll leave my job at the drop of a dime…

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Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by enoch_r »

noduerme wrote: post #56
phphphphp wrote: post #15

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GoDaddy's entire brand presence was based on objectification of women for their early life. After GoDaddy's founder Bob left, it got better. Bob was a character and arguably the entire reason for the insane brand -- strange, strange man.

Look, "Go Daddy" itself is pretty weird and creepy as a name. The thing that really soured me on it and pulled my clients who were there was the fact that the "daddy" in question was out shooting elephants. Family environment is great and all, and I suppose some villagers got to eat an elephant, but I'll be damned if I'll let anyone I know pay that guy for domain registration. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/daddy-ce…

Paying people to raise social, intelligent animals in horrific environments and then slaughter them seems more morally questionable than quickly ending the life of a wild elephant. Do you ensure that the CEOs of companies you do work with are vegan?

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Post by noduerme »

osigurdson wrote: post #78
noduerme wrote: post #56

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Look, "Go Daddy" itself is pretty weird and creepy as a name. The thing that really soured me on it and pulled my clients who were there was the fact that the "daddy" in question was out shooting elephants. Family environment is great and all, and I suppose some villagers got to eat an elephant, but I'll be damned if I'll let anyone I know pay that guy for domain registration. https://abcnews.go.com/Business/daddy-ce…

Go Daddy is proof that a fractured market can be consolidated with extreme marketing exposure. Wix, Monday.com, Asana, etc. are using the same playbook imo.

This is a really good point. No doubt, they took a relatively small operation in the crowded hosting market and made it a household name. How it became a household name wasn't just over the top marketing, though... it involved scandal and negative press. I do handle design and marketing for one regional corporate client (a holdover from my design days)... and even though I'm not afraid of pushing edgy campaigns, I'd personally be pretty gun-shy about employing the sort of scorched earth stuff GoDaddy did. I'd also just be concerned about the sanity of my client.

Re: GoDaddy Announces Layoffs of “About 8%”

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Post by cseleborg »

0xAFFFF wrote: post #34
scarface74 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You think any employer “cares about their employees”? A job is a transaction a way for me to trade labor for money and support ny addiction to food and shelter. It’s my responsibility to save accordingly always expecting a lay off. This has been my mindset since I was 22 years old making 11/hour as a computer operator saving my overtime pay until today at 49 where I stumbled into a role at $BigTech three year…

> Really? You think any employer “cares about their employees”? It can actually happen sometimes, but I've never seen it outside of small structures.

But small structures are the norm, or at least very common, aren't they? There are plenty of established, small to medium businesses out there. Someone for whom this is important can certainly find a job like that within one of those.
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