I'm reminded of a similar instance a couple of years back when one of my astronomy professors noticed that if you typed into Google "mass of the Sun in solar masses" you would get back 0.9995 instead of 1.
Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
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Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#82I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
They should be marketed as mascots, and given playful, childish personalities. You wouldn't blindly trust a child, why would you an AI in its infancy?
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#83This is a great illustration of the risks of LLMs. As a user, if I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results. That's the whole reason to use the search engine in the first place! We're about to enter a dark ages of crappy AI products that are touted as game changing, outcompeting each other to be the best chatbot that can compose haiku about how grapes tu…
> I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results.
Genuine, honest question: How did you come to the belief that search engines are reliable sources of truth?
I completely agree that search engines provide a valuable service. But in my own work, I find them to very often point to inaccurate information, sometimes greatly so. I don't think this is terribly surprising, given Sturgeon's law, but still.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#84Anyone remember Google panicking after Facebook took off so they bought Orkut and rushed out a crappy “social app development environment”?
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#85I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
They should be marketed as mascots, and given playful, childish personalities. You wouldn't blindly trust a child, why would you an AI in its infancy?
Clippy?
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#86I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
They should be marketed as mascots, and given playful, childish personalities. You wouldn't blindly trust a child, why would you an AI in its infancy?
They trusted the "Red Queen". /s
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#87I think there is a genuine concern that Google could overreact and launch a half-baked product in pure panic of being left behind or one upped by Microsoft. There is also a fear, I think, that the ChatGPT integration with Bing/Edge could not go all that smoothly. I think it could be game changing in many ways, but I can also see both of these falling apart. Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant and Siri were thought to be g…
> and launch a half-baked product It'll be fortunate if it's only half-baked. These digital assitants are already rough around the edges with how they sometimes confidently provide inaccurate information. Add on Google's absolutely abysmal product development track record and the internal confusion over being forced into doing this and this isn't a stand alone application but it's being integrated into something, and…
>These digital assitants are already rough around the edges with how they sometimes confidently provide inaccurate information.
its only going to get worse. because there will LLMs like chatgpt pumping out content for SEO content mills with no vetting for accuracy, then the next generation of LLMs are trained on them thus further corrupting the knowledge base they pull on to produce new content. its going to be a horrible feed back loop.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#88This is a great illustration of the risks of LLMs. As a user, if I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results. That's the whole reason to use the search engine in the first place! We're about to enter a dark ages of crappy AI products that are touted as game changing, outcompeting each other to be the best chatbot that can compose haiku about how grapes tu…
> I am asking this question to a search engine, I definitely do not expect to need to fact-check the results. Genuine, honest question: How did you come to the belief that search engines are reliable sources of truth? I completely agree that search engines provide a valuable service. But in my own work, I find them to very often point to inaccurate information, sometimes greatly so. I don't think this is terribly sur…
I can see how someone could extrapolate Google's goal of indexing knowledge(JTB) into being a reliable source of truth. It's simply a matter of taking them at their word on the J and T parts. The B is up to the user.
Google's branding frames itself as the expert in the novice-expert problem. The vast number of users implicitly take on the role of the novice by virtue of using the product. They've already self-identified as a novice which makes both parties complicit in the arrangement.
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would love it if this nukes the SEO industry and the internet goes back to forums and community groups. The best info is almost always locked up in these places.
LLMs will do the opposite. The internet will get flooded with machine-generated bullshit.
exactly. my only hope is that the flooding of cheap bulshit craters the market via oversupply. a combination of to much shit text competeing for ad space drops their revenue and people having diminishing trust for it reducing the ad clicks for it dropping the ad revenue even more
Re: Google's Bard shows incorrect information in its launch ad
#90There was a lot of stories like "Webb captures it's fist ever picture of an exoplanet" [eg]. My guess is that it's digesting those and not understanding that the "it's" in that sentence is critical. Here is a prior example of an exoplanet picture: https://esahubble.org/images/heic0821a/ [eg] https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/09/01/nasas-webb-takes-its-...
I can't tell from the tweet why the Bard response is wrong. Is it because some other instrument has taken an image of an exoplanet, or because no instrument has ever done so? ChatGPT seems to believe it is the latter.
i'm not a grammar expert but i think as a layperson there is a little bit of ambiguity in how a reader could interpret Bard's response. If i were writing i would probably specify "first ever picture". I think a lot of times words like "the first" are relative and context specific which the Bard answer lacks.