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AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by BitwiseFool »

anoonmoose wrote: post #40
slackfan wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A while ago. Going against the party line of the week -- you are liable to get cancelled. See: Dave Chapelle being called a white supremacist nazi transphobe for his set.

Chapelle is rolling in Netflix money and won a Grammy last night. By what metric is he "cancelled" other than "some people called him bad names"?

I can't help but think that his prior fame and clout as a comedian, alongside his existing wealth, is what enabled him to get his recent bits produced and published. He was already well known and well liked enough to overcome the controversy. I don't think his success indicates any comedian can do the same and be free of cancellation, or that it should be taken as evidence that cancellation isn't a real thing for comedians.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by bsaul »

As many people here noticed, the bit has actually nothing to do with transphobia, or gay, but it's about a comedian bombing a show with horrible jokes.

What's interesting in this case, is that there can be no "background check". Or "this guy has actually had weird quotes in the past, he's very suspicious". Or "he has republican friends"... All the regular strategy activist use to demolish a public figure over a pretext.

This time it's just pure AI, and as such pure stupidity from the censor.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by chrischen »

alexb_ wrote: post #39
anoonmoose wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting that Twitch should ignore accounts that violate the ToS, so long as it was a computer that violated the terms as opposed to a person?

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The AI is literally trained by rewarding it to not make mistakes.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by sillysaurusx »

gregsadetsky wrote: post #19

Explanation from their Discord (more info/links below) “Earlier tonight, we started having an outage using OpenAI’s GPT-3 Davinci model, which caused the show to exhibit errant behaviors (you may have seen empty rooms cycling through). OpenAI has a less sophisticated model, Curie, that was the predecessor to Davinci. When davinci started failing, we switched over to Curie to try to keep the show running without any d…

Is there any info on how long the ban is for? I assume a week, but forsen’s was a month.

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by Joker_vD »

Semaphor wrote: post #35
alexb_ wrote: post #12

What is this going to accomplish? Is the robot going to learn from its mistakes? Or is this supposed to be against the programmers for "failing to put in safeguards" or something like that? It's kind of silly - it's not that the robot was bad but that if you keep it on 24/7 it will eventually say something bad. An infinite monkey typewriter will contain transphobic text.

Eh, it’s the same for IRL streams. Channels get suspended for what others do. There’s a food truck livestreaming, any kind of nudity or visible underwear results in the stream going offline, VOD deletion and going online again (or a "censored" overlay in case they see it coming), 2 girls flashing still got a warning, one drunk dude with his pants falling down resulted in a 24h ban. What are they supposed to learn fro…

And one girl literally had sex on stream and got suspended for 7 days. Or was it 14?

Re: AI Generated Seinfeld banned on Twitch for transphobic jokes

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Post by joxel »

brookst wrote: post #70
rideontime wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Computers can't learn from their mistakes. Humans can. That's the whole point behind bans, is it not? I think the point of bans is to keep TOS-violating content off of platforms, not to rehabilitate people.

Right? It’s so funny that people see this in terms of punishment and rehabilitation. Do people really mistake these platforms for their parents?

Seems like that’s only for permanent bans. I can’t see anything other than punishment/rehabilitation as the goal for a short term ban. Maybe I’m not thinking it through, but a short term ban doesn’t seem focused on just removing TOS violating material.
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