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Do we live in a society without a counterculture?
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My understanding of counterculture is that it 'counters'. I.e. it inherently searches to change or influence the dominant culture. Your examples do show that we are (thankfully) not a monoculture. But they place themselves outside of our culture, instead trying to influence. A good example of counter culture is BLM, Extinction Rebellion or Occupy Wallstreet. Only thing: those are movements, not cultures. And they are…
>BLM >LGBT >counter culture Endlessly supported by literally every news outlet, major tech company, big 5 sports league, F1000, university, and at least half of the political class. You’re not counter to any major institution, lmao. You’re not the resistance
Changing the colour of your logo on a certain date is not really "supporting". Corps gonna corp and if changing the logo and publishing some nice post brings more money, they'll do it. (While donating to Republicans at the same time)
Re: Do we live in a society without a counterculture?
#83Which country is this from? I don't feel it fits where I live at all.
Sounds like it’s from USA, home of generic kpi driven ‘art’
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#84It was wake up call around 2015 when Comic-con started having banners that say "celebrating the popular arts". In 2006 and earlier, this sign used to say something along the lines of "celebrating counter culture."
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I mean going from mainstream to counter culture is a bit of a downgrade isn't it?
Not really. Youth tend to gravitate toward counter-culture naturally as a form of rebellion against their parents growing up. Having kids going toward traditional values is exactly what this society needs to begin the healing process.
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My bank decorates rainbow ATMs during pride month. A block away from my house my local council has created a rainbow street crossing. I don’t think it’s possible to get more mainstream than that.
Taping a nail to your jacket doesn’t make you Punk.
Sounds like gatekeeping to me. I know LGBT culture generally used to be edgy and underground. But widespread mainstream acceptance means that’s not really true anymore.
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#88I see the counter culture over the last few years as the less obnoxious elements of the alt-right/conservative and centrist/"classic liberal" in their opposition to the overreach and oppression by the "liberal"/left especially in their domination of big tech and classic media. However, as the recognition of that unpleasant latter tendency has become mainstream and everybody and her grandma now knows what "woke" means…
What are the great creative works you identify with the alt-right? I know lots of great leftist artists, musicians, etc. but I don't see alt-righters making a lot of daring indie cinema for instance.
Thousands of sad frogs, wojaks and other memes. The fringe fashwave music videos. Greentext stories with their weird rules as whole new literary genre. It's obvious there are real artists spending days and hours making them, but posting any of these things on mainstream cultural outlets gets you banned. How this is any different from independent filmmaker being shunned out of cinemas for his extreme take on coprophilia in the 80'?
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#89Personally I think the word “counterculture” should be retired, as we no longer live in monocultural societies. We no longer gather round any shared fireplace. For a counterculture to meaningfully exist, it has to be somehow discordant with a dominant narrative - but there is no dominant narrative any more. The west is not ruled by the left or the right or the church or the state. We are all fragmenting off into echo…
There have always been meaningful distinctions and divisions in society that radically shape how specific groups and individuals relate to and participate in it. The boundaries and dynamics change, have maybe changed faster in the last few generations than ever before, but the phenomenon isn't peculiar to our time.
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The voices may be loud online, but it's definitely not "normal" culture.
My bank decorates rainbow ATMs during pride month. A block away from my house my local council has created a rainbow street crossing. I don’t think it’s possible to get more mainstream than that.
It literally has corporate sponsorship by every Fortune 500 company.
Hell most of them won’t even acknowledge Christmas anymore.