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Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by SiempreViernes »

hellotomyrars wrote: post #44
yccs27 wrote: post #14

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I can understand it insofar that my first association with the word "laptop" is the portable computer with integrated keyboard that mostly sits on my desk. This build isn't too far from that.

I suppose I can understand it from the perspective, and that is probably the majority of the time a laptop is in use, but I also associate a laptop with a self contained unit that has all the required input devices and requires no additional setup to be usable. Flip it open on a bed, anywhere, in a second, including your lap. I have a ton of general purpose computers that can be set up on a desk but are otherwise wil…

Yeah, I find it odd how many people think "usable while travelling" is not an important feature of a laptop.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by SiempreViernes »

jasonlotito wrote: post #30
unwind wrote: post #5

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Well. sure, but obviously still keeping the name "laptop" in the video title is, as always on the good old 'Tube, clickbait. It's not, uh, intellectually honest to say "here's how to build a triple-screen laptop!" and then follow that up with "oh, btw, don't use laptops, desktop computers are better for you, see?". All that said, I did enjoy the build and it's really cool to see both Framework parts being used as wel…

I would argue that the name laptop is the idea of a portable computer setup. If the suggestion is that a laptop is something that is designed to work in your lap, I would argue that laptops aren't designed to work in your lap. If the argument is the form factor (folding, keyboard, screen, mouse), then sure, fine. You can call iPads laptops.

Whether or not they are intentionally designed to be used in a lap, it is a fact a laptop from toshiba will be usable when put onto your lap.

You could argue that something "truly" designed for lapwork would better deserve the name laptop, but it's just weird to say that something completely unusable in your lap should be called a laptop.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by SiempreViernes »

lopis wrote: post #50
SiempreViernes wrote: post #3

This looks like a cool desktop computer; not sure why he labels a computer explicitly designed to not be usable in your lap a "laptop".

That's why in other languages it's called "notebook computer" or "portable computer". "Laptop" never really made sense. No one ever used laptops on the lap.

> No one ever used laptops on the lap.

That's just a plainly false statement, and there have been several instances where the fact I can use my laptop while travelling has been very important.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by SiempreViernes »

whazor wrote: post #17
unwind wrote: post #5

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Well. sure, but obviously still keeping the name "laptop" in the video title is, as always on the good old 'Tube, clickbait. It's not, uh, intellectually honest to say "here's how to build a triple-screen laptop!" and then follow that up with "oh, btw, don't use laptops, desktop computers are better for you, see?". All that said, I did enjoy the build and it's really cool to see both Framework parts being used as wel…

The current YT title “Triple-Screen Laptop DONE RIGHT” is still defendable, as it means doing the whole concept of 'Triple-Screen Laptop' in a way it is useful. I think the biggest issue is the current title on Hacker News: “DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework”, as it is clearly not a laptop.

Well, even then I think the title is stretching it: to me the more sensible way to make a triple-screen-laptop-sitting-on-a-desktop is to just connect a normal triple screen setup via a docking station.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by chias »

onli wrote: post #49
AnEro wrote: post #23

That's the coolest impractical laptop I've seen.

I'd say it is not that impractical. Sits somewhere between a laptop and an ITX build, self-contained but needing table. I thought that was the most impressive part.

Well, needing a table, external keyboard and external mouse.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by mixedCase »

VectorLock wrote: post #79
mixedCase wrote: post #18

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They can't even afford to have mass production for 15/16 inch laptops, I don't believe such a niche target is within their realm of possibility.

Their product is barely differentiated from other laptops on the market. Having a niche but unique product would be good for them.

I'm sorry but if you believe the Framework is barely differentiated from other offerings, you are missing information or you are okay with laptops being wholly disposable and barely repairable.

There is no modern laptop like it where you can keep a chassis and update the thing piecemeal, easily buy parts for it, designed from scratch to be easily repairable and comes by default with a sensible system for choosing your own ports without external dongles hanging from delicate ports.

The market for a three screen laptop is much, much smaller than that and it would probably work better as a third-party accessory to the base Framework. Of course, it wouldn't make much sense because their only chassis has a tiny screen, but if you believe a three laptop production line is economically viable, surely you also can see how a MBP-like 16-inch screen production line is even more viable.

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Post by yencabulator »

Timshel wrote: post #16
SiempreViernes wrote: post #3

This looks like a cool desktop computer; not sure why he labels a computer explicitly designed to not be usable in your lap a "laptop".

I can't find any-other term to describe a battery powered transportable computer with any SEO relevance. Can you ?

We used to call them portables, or luggables, back in the day when the sewing machine form factor was still the best thing technologically possible.

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PS/2_portable_computers)

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by yencabulator »

lopis wrote: post #50
SiempreViernes wrote: post #3

This looks like a cool desktop computer; not sure why he labels a computer explicitly designed to not be usable in your lap a "laptop".

That's why in other languages it's called "notebook computer" or "portable computer". "Laptop" never really made sense. No one ever used laptops on the lap.

Aaakshully pushes glasses up my favorite way to use a laptop is on a recliner, with feet up.

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by M5x7wI3CmbEem10 »

bradwood wrote: post #57
felixg3 wrote: post #32

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This is wonderful. Thank you for creating Framework and making it accessible outside of the United States so early on!

Here here! I have 2 Frameworks in my UK household as we speak. And when the wife's old Macbook Air gives up the ghost, there will be 3.

what will you do with the old macbook?

Re: DIY triple-screen laptop based on the framework

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Post by monocasa »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #78
monocasa wrote: post #37

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The rumor is that the pi is having issues because Broadcom (who actually owns the IP in their chips) is pissed that they built a for profit company on top of IP Broadcom donated intending to be going to a nonprofit. Rumor is that's also why there's no progress on an RPi5, as that would require coordination with Broadcom. That would also explain why the Pico had no problems being stocked, as it contains no Broadcom IP…

It's not Broadcom IP, all the Pi apart Pico are based on Broadcom chips , which indeed may explain why Pico does not seem to be impacted by supply issues, as you point out. The likelihood is therefore that supply issues are because of Broadcom...

The chips past the BCM2835 have been a collaboration between Broadcom and the Raspberry Pi Foundation, with rpi taking on a larger share of the work as time goes on.
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