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Re: New Mac Mini

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No, it's $599, with a load of extra customised options that allow people to add what they want, you cannot even buy this one in a store, you have to do a custom order, your regular user, walking into an electronic store will buy a base model. You've specced it up with every customisation possible, that 999.999999% of buyers won't do and won't need and then complain at the cost in an effort to bash Apple,

I'm not trying to bash Apple in bad faith, but let's be real the $599 model is inadequate. 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD in 2023. There's plenty out there on the M1 Mac mini's 8GB being a bad idea even for casual users. I had an 8GB M1 mini when it first came out and returned it because it was swapping to the SSD with like 3 apps open (nothing like an IDE or Docker or Adobe X Y Z). I just find it humorous that you can s…

256GB of storage is more than enough for me personally. I'm also the kind of person for whom 64GB is more than enough on a phone.

Re: New Mac Mini

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Why get the M2 Pro Mini when you can just opt for Mac Studio with M1 Max? They're roughly in the same price bracket.

If you need 32GB in your Mac Mini the price difference is $1999 for the Mac Studio vs $1699 for the Mac Mini M2 Pro 32GB. Indeed that's a tough sell for the Mac Mini. It shows how much Apple is charging extra for those capacity upgrades.

Plus I’d assume the M1 Studios will now get discounted in preparation for M2 refresh in March.

Re: New Mac Mini

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disappointed to see them still selling these with 8gb RAM. More than a dozen chrome tabs and a few discord servers has been enough to crash/significantly slow down my m1 mac mini edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.

Why take away consumer choice? They've always been available with at least 16GB. I'm perfectly happy with 8GB on my M1 and it was fine on my 2016 13" Pro.

Because the alternative is to add literally a few dollars to the bill of materials for the machine, double the memory, and give everyone a better experience. This also means the machine will last longer and likely not end up in a landfill as soon.

$200 to add 8GB of memory is _insane_, and framing it as "consumer choice" is bad when consumers are being gouged so badly. It's literally at least a 20x markup on the wholesale cost. You can buy 8GB of DDR4 at retail for $20 or less.

Re: New Mac Mini

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$4,500 maxed out. $4,500 for a Mac mini. God. They really think people are going to pay $4,500 for a Mac mini, don't they?

Dell's XPS tower starts at $749 (8GB RAM, 256GB SSD, Intel 12400) and can be maxed out (not including support contracts) for $5200. Heck, a Ford Maverick starts at $22,195 and can be customized maxed out at over $40,000. This is not an uncommon pattern.

Re: New Mac Mini

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I'm not trying to bash Apple in bad faith, but let's be real the $599 model is inadequate. 8GB of RAM and a 256GB SSD in 2023. There's plenty out there on the M1 Mac mini's 8GB being a bad idea even for casual users. I had an 8GB M1 mini when it first came out and returned it because it was swapping to the SSD with like 3 apps open (nothing like an IDE or Docker or Adobe X Y Z). I just find it humorous that you can s…

The $599 model is for a basic user who barely does anything more than browse the web and send emails (which is to say, a lot of people). It's not a pro machine.

I'm a "pro", but don't do 8k video editing.

Still haven't maxed out the M1 mini. Except when Zoom or Discord start taking weird amounts of CPU for literally no reason :D

Re: New Mac Mini

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Apple's pricing is pretty interesting. On the low side they annoy with a hobbled option (256G storage); on the high side they price things to ask "do you _really_ want 2T ssd in this thing?" In the middle is the product they'd like to sell the most. An $800 box with a power cord. Spend the same and get a therma-throttled cpu with iOS and display (iPad); a little more and get a monitor (MBA). Spend double and get a la…

With a desktop device, the classic filesystem packrat might be best off just buying an external HDD with double-digit TB worth of storage and leaving it plugged in all the time.

That presupposes that the user knows how to deal with that. I did it for my wife’s current Mac Mini and never again. Photos is all janky and anything that causes an inconvenience is my fault.

Re: New Mac Mini

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A M2 Pro Mini with a few spec bumps puts it at a similar price than a M1 Max Studio.

I was waiting for the Mini refresh but now I think I'll just wait for the Studio refresh and get one with M2 Max.

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