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Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by Erik816 »

Long Covid is extremely similar to ME/CFS, but affecting far more people. On the plus side for those of us living with ME/CFS, we can now explain to people "it's basically Long Covid." On the downside, this can be an extremely debilitating illness that lasts indefinitely. I am on year 14 and while I have seen improvement, I am still partially disabled.

My condolences to everyone dealing with Long Covid, which includes both the actual disease and the social consequences. It is already exhausting, but even more so when you need to convince people it's real, struggle to deal with skeptical or poorly informed doctors, and politely deal with the continuous unprompted medical advice from well-meaning friends, family, and internet strangers.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by Izkata »

twawaaay wrote: post #25
thewizardofaus wrote: post #10

Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

I feel for you. This is such a strange virus. My whole family got covid so I expected to be next. But I only needed to take 2 days off at work and I paused my training for just 3 days and was almost back to my normal HR/pace in less than a week since I got first symptoms. It took me 3 more weeks before I started getting negative test results.

> This is such a strange virus.

This effect was previously known as post-viral fatigue. It's not unique to covid.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by TechBro8615 »

SnowHill9902 wrote: post #60
thewizardofaus wrote: post #10

Covid fatigue is no joke. As an Elite Athlete I'm training 20-30 hours a week. I got covid last year (triple vaxed) and it wiped me out for a good 6 months. It took me 3 weeks to be able to walk longer than a minute without needing to lay down for the rest of the day and sleep. I have dealt with fatigue problems for 6 months and only just now, do I feel like I'm getting "back to normal". The most frustrating thing is…

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If OP is located in Australia as his username suggests, then he likely didn't have much of a choice.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by TechBro8615 »

stubish wrote: post #15
roenxi wrote: post #5

As always, it is difficult to assess this sort of thing without a reference to the flu. As far as I can tell, in daily life we are continuously encountering people with various chronic problems and systemically under-calling the impact of them. It is a total coincidence if a body is functioning at full capacity. If COVID increases the hazard ratios there isn't much I can do. As far as I can tell, everyone is going to…

> As far as I can tell, everyone is going to get COVID This is a common feeling, but remember: You can greatly affect the probability of an infection through precautions. And if unlucky, you can greatly affect the number of times you get infected through precautions. Fewer infections, fewer rolls of the dice. As far as I'm aware, I'm still infection free and hope to remain so. I am in a much better situation than mos…

I've also not been infected that I'm aware of, although there were a couple episodes that might have been Covid. I'm tempted to pay for a blood test to check for antibodies, it only costs about $60.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

rybosworld wrote: post #80
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.0...

> new research is uncovering serious and significant risks for the vaccine The frequency of the reaction mentioned in this article is around 2 in 100,000 people. The frequency of death from covid is somewhere in the range of 1000-2000 in 100,000 people. I'll take the vaccine odds. > with fairly marginal protection benefits Your source says nothing about protection benefits being marginal. In fact, one of the author's…

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Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by jordansmithnz »

I’ve been dealing with long COVID since March last year. There’s some interesting learnings I’ve had along the way:

- I was almost perfectly healthy and in my early 30’s. Long COVID isn’t that rare and can happen to anyone, even with a mild case of COVID.

- After first getting COVID, I didn’t rest much. There’s research showing this increases chances of getting long COVID. If you test positive… rest and fully recover. Don’t make the same mistake I did.

- Quite a few people I’ve met seem to have the opinion it’s all neurological. The linked study has plenty of proof it’s not, but people seem to like putting things they don’t understand in a nice bucket.

- If you’re reasonably healthy, don’t take it for granted. Health won’t always last.

Thankfully, I’m doing much better the last few months. I think I’ll be 90% back to normal within a year. Not everyone is so lucky though, so it’s encouraging to see so much research being put forward.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by mistrial9 »

TechBro8615 wrote: post #84
stubish wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As far as I can tell, everyone is going to get COVID This is a common feeling, but remember: You can greatly affect the probability of an infection through precautions. And if unlucky, you can greatly affect the number of times you get infected through precautions. Fewer infections, fewer rolls of the dice. As far as I'm aware, I'm still infection free and hope to remain so. I am in a much better situation than mos…

I've also not been infected that I'm aware of, although there were a couple episodes that might have been Covid. I'm tempted to pay for a blood test to check for antibodies, it only costs about $60.

resistance in your immune system is recorded in a more complicated way, you cannot do a simple test to check for covid resistance

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by kuhewa »

jbritton wrote: post #70
lossolo wrote: post #42

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> Additionally new research is uncovering serious and significant risks for the vaccine with fairly marginal protection benefits. Could you provide a link to that research ?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X2... https://jackanapes.substack.com/p/cdc-finally-released-its-v...

The study certainly doesn't support the claim of marginal benefits outweighing serious side effects.

Re: Long Covid: major findings, mechanisms and recommendations

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Post by kuhewa »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #85
rybosworld wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> new research is uncovering serious and significant risks for the vaccine The frequency of the reaction mentioned in this article is around 2 in 100,000 people. The frequency of death from covid is somewhere in the range of 1000-2000 in 100,000 people. I'll take the vaccine odds. > with fairly marginal protection benefits Your source says nothing about protection benefits being marginal. In fact, one of the author's…

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> Repeated vaccination is likely not going to be a scientifically justified strategy.

It is kinda of amazing to me sometimes just how selectively people can parse an evidencebase

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