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Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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> The thing that I have to install on MacOS so that I can run docker. There is no apt on macOS.

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The parent comment was talking about Docker desktop, which is clearly targeted at macos and windows. Saying that you can just download it with an apt command is irrelevant to the discussion, because we can't use that outside of linux.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

#82

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What's Docker Desktop exactly?

The thing that I have to install on MacOS so that I can run docker. Is there any other way(i.e no gui utility) ?

The only way to get Docker to work on MacOS and Windows is to spin up a linux VM, install Docker in that VM, and pipe through all the calls to it. You can always do this manually using your VM of choice. There are a bunch of tools which make this more seamless, Docker Desktop being one of them. Alternatives are Podman, Colima, Rancher Desktop, all of them with their own pros and cons.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

#83
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Can't speak for anyone else, but my company is migrating away from Docker Desktop to Rancher in order to save money. We'll see how well that goes.

> Can't speak for anyone else, but my company is migrating away from Docker Desktop to Rancher in order to save money.

Their Rancher Desktop offering seems to be promising: https://rancherdesktop.io/

Much the same way how Podman Desktop seems nice: https://podman-desktop.io/

Though personally, Docker has always been a safe bet (both the desktop software, as well as the container runtime), I think I'll stick with it for a few years and let others take the early adopter risks, and use the alternatives when they've been more battle tested.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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I'll be interested to see how this turns out. This is already looking more positive for them than I expected.

Rancher Desktop has been working great for me, so I'm not sure they'll be able to keep increasing their numbers with so closely comparable free competitors. I'd be curious what the breakdown is in terms of how much of their value is from Docker Desktop vs. Docker Hub vs. ancillary features.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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The thing that I have to install on MacOS so that I can run docker. Is there any other way(i.e no gui utility) ?

You can use Colima to get the same functionality, minus auto-start on boot. https://github.com/abiosoft/colima

I had problems pushing to AWS ECR from Colima and had to switch back to Docker Desktop. But for day-to-day usage it seemed to work great.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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The parent comment was talking about Docker desktop, which is clearly targeted at macos and windows. Saying that you can just download it with an apt command is irrelevant to the discussion, because we can't use that outside of linux.

> which is clearly targeted at macos and windows

I didn't know what it was, so I didn't know it was only for macos and windows. If instead of being sarcastic he had just answered my question, I wouldn't have said something irrelevant.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

#88
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Just like I don't know anybody that pays for Oracle... because I live in a bubble.

Oracle had a 2022 yearly revenue of $42.4 billion. If Docker increased their revenue ten-fold it would still be around 40 times smaller than Oracle.

So you're saying they could grow to 1.2B ARR and you still wouldn't know anyone who would pay for it? I need to get in on this.

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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I remember everyone had written Docker off for dead when they announced their updated pricing plans, but they really made perfect sense, and I am happy to see the company recover. A large chunk of the tech world today relies on their products, but they were making next to nothing for it. It is definitely worth it for large companies to throw a few dollars their way considering the massive amount of value they are get…

I'm surprised by this as well, but maybe it was the HN bias that made that impression. My company received the memo from Docker to upgrade to paid version, and I helped many to move on to Podman. However there were teams for which getting a Docker Desktop license was easier than the Podman move. I am sure there are many more companies that can easily afford the convenience of Docker Desktop for a trivial fee.

But isn't that the same vulnerability to Docker's business that Docker Swarm had?

The whole of Docker Desktop isn't replaceable with a drop-in alternative today but parts of it are, and the rest could be very soon if an org with the resources and ability keeps developing things like podman.

So what would Docker as a company do when the equivalent of what happens to Swarm happens to Desktop? Pivot again?

Re: Docker 2.0 went from $11M to $135M in 2 years

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I've never seen that get you to $120M ARR. Have any examples?

What a strange argument. So if it hasn’t happened before it’s impossible?

You said "Juicing ARR in a dying company is not rocket science" - I'm saying it is rocket science and that it's way hard. The fact there aren't any examples makes me feel like I'm correct in saying it's not easy.
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