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Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by chimeracoder »

jejeyyy77 wrote: post #80
prepend wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it basically means they can’t answer visa related questions so anything they can’t answer gets punted to this consult. It’s a consideration that they’ll have lots of questions that would have been “I don’t know, go find an attorney.” So now it’s “we paid this attorney to answer you up to 30 minutes.” Visa holders are extra hosed during layoffs, but there’s not really any way to avoid this as you can’t favor v…

US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

> US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think.

Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by prepend »

jejeyyy77 wrote: post #80
prepend wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it basically means they can’t answer visa related questions so anything they can’t answer gets punted to this consult. It’s a consideration that they’ll have lots of questions that would have been “I don’t know, go find an attorney.” So now it’s “we paid this attorney to answer you up to 30 minutes.” Visa holders are extra hosed during layoffs, but there’s not really any way to avoid this as you can’t favor v…

US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

What country doesn’t do this?

Yes, it kind of is a raw deal for immigrants. But it’s one of many things that suck for immigrants (look at the fees immigration attorneys charge). The exchange is that they typically get a 2-5x multiplier in earnings from their home country and consider it worth the risk.

It’s kind of like med school and residency. It really sucks and is difficult and is a “raw deal” yet everyone puts up with it because of the payout.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by olivetan »

Liquifi ("Carta for crypto"), is hiring across all roles. Liquifi helps companies automate their token vest plans & also manage their token cap tables. We're actively hiring & would love to chat with anyone that was affected by these layoffs.

If interested, feel free to apply via our website at: https://www.liquifi.finance/

Or reach out to me directly at oliver@liqufi.finance

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by dataexporter »

prepend wrote: post #82
jejeyyy77 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

What country doesn’t do this? Yes, it kind of is a raw deal for immigrants. But it’s one of many things that suck for immigrants (look at the fees immigration attorneys charge). The exchange is that they typically get a 2-5x multiplier in earnings from their home country and consider it worth the risk. It’s kind of like med school and residency. It really sucks and is difficult and is a “raw deal” yet everyone puts u…

Most countries don't. American immigration is a mess with unknown delays and archaic processing techniques. Just because the employees get a 2x multiplier in earnings doesn't mean the immigration pain is worth it.

In a land of immigrants - having such a poor immigration process for highly skilled employees will only mean that the best and the brightest talent will no longer be interested in moving to the US when they could get treated much more fairly in other countries. The result will be the workforce will be filled with mediocre and sub-par talent who are willing to go through the painful delays in the immigration process.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by qaq »

chimeracoder wrote: post #81
jejeyyy77 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

> US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants. That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think. Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.

Not true for Canada and most of EU.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by chimeracoder »

qaq wrote: post #85
chimeracoder wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants. That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think. Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.

Not true for Canada and most of EU.

> Not true for Canada and most of EU.

I don't know where you get this idea but that is absolutely not the case.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

prepend wrote: post #82
jejeyyy77 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants.

What country doesn’t do this? Yes, it kind of is a raw deal for immigrants. But it’s one of many things that suck for immigrants (look at the fees immigration attorneys charge). The exchange is that they typically get a 2-5x multiplier in earnings from their home country and consider it worth the risk. It’s kind of like med school and residency. It really sucks and is difficult and is a “raw deal” yet everyone puts u…

I don't know of any other country that does.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by tshaddox »

kaesar14 wrote: post #25
danwee wrote: post #16

I always wondered how American companies lay off European employees (when the companies have branches in European countries). Usually, in Europe, you cannot just fire someone without a justified reason (and no, saving costs is not a justified reason). Such reason are usually: the employee did something illegal (data leaks, sell internal information, etc.) or something related to harassing other employees. Even with b…

How is saving costs not a justifiable reason? Maybe all of this is why European employees have such a hard time finding US salaries.

If saving costs was a justifiable reason how could literally any firing whatsoever ever not be justifiable?

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by prepend »

dataexporter wrote: post #84
prepend wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What country doesn’t do this? Yes, it kind of is a raw deal for immigrants. But it’s one of many things that suck for immigrants (look at the fees immigration attorneys charge). The exchange is that they typically get a 2-5x multiplier in earnings from their home country and consider it worth the risk. It’s kind of like med school and residency. It really sucks and is difficult and is a “raw deal” yet everyone puts u…

Most countries don't. American immigration is a mess with unknown delays and archaic processing techniques. Just because the employees get a 2x multiplier in earnings doesn't mean the immigration pain is worth it. In a land of immigrants - having such a poor immigration process for highly skilled employees will only mean that the best and the brightest talent will no longer be interested in moving to the US when they…

> Just because the employees get a 2x multiplier in earnings doesn't mean the immigration pain is worth it.

The evidence of millions of people putting up with it refutes your statement. I think the immigration record in the US shows that people literally think the pain is worth it.

Re: Carta lays off 10% of the workforce

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Post by prepend »

qaq wrote: post #85
chimeracoder wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US residency being tied to employment is still so funny/ridiculous to me, as a non-American. What a raw deal for the immigrants. That is quite common, especially in the developed world. The US is a little stricter in the timelines and thresholds it applies, but not as much more as people seem to think. Immigrants get a raw deal everywhere, especially immigrants from developing countries.

Not true for Canada and most of EU.

For specialized work visas it certainly is.

There are also visa in the US that have nothing to do with employment.

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