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Ah man. I'm sorry. But, you made it to Amazon, you will be wanted for another opportunity real quick I bet!
Not in the current market no.
I know a few folks relatively high up in Amazon HR/TA/People Ops type roles and the scale at which they operate recruiting is nuts. Mainly driven by the insane need for people in the ops/fulfillment/delivery areas, but corp roles are also similar. They typically make more offers than roles they have available, as they have fairly good analytics around what % of offers will not be filled post acceptance (ie someone si…
There are times when you read something that conveys real depth of knowledge, sharp execution, and competence, but a complete lack of consideration for whether the thing done was right to do in the first place.
It does suck and it is a shitty situation, and it is probably a good idea to keep that framing in mind, as there is no recourse against a company the size of Amazon behaving like this towards someone without much power and influence.
But let's not lose sight of the fact that this is was an unethical action to take. If your forecasts include some risk, and your potential hires are taking that risk on (as H1Bs, no less), don't lie to them and tell them it's safe to quit their previous job when it's not.
Really sorry to hear that. This is a reminder that you should never work for Amazon if you need a visa. Sadly your story is not the first one I heard. The most recent, a friend of mine was promised they would support her visa application after one year working there (which is really simple and cheap for them) and now they say it is against their rules.
My intuition is that there will always be enough people who are too desperate, or uninformed, to steer clear. I hope I'm wrong.
Rescinding an offer that's tied to a visa is just extra shitty, sorry this happened to you. Surely they know the consequences that you'll suffer. I wonder if the Amazon leadership chain that collectively decided to do this has any remorse. Edit: Feels like something that governments should tie to individual company's ability to use the visa program. Rescind a visa-tied offer (for no-fault-of-applicant reason), and we…
So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.
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So what's the better option? Laying off someone already employed instead? It's not extra shitty, it's just as shitty as any other situation. It sucks for the person involved but the alternatives are not better. At least someone that got their offer rescinded can sue for promissory estoppel.
A company uses the visa program typically under the reasoning "we need this kind of worker so bad that we can't hire locally" . So, if they are rescinding an offer, it's hard to support the original premise. Also, "extra shitty" seems obvious to me. You're not only not hired, you likely have to leave the country. The company rescinding the offer knows this.
The fact that you rescinded an offer doesn't mean that suddenly local people are suitable, it just means this position isn't needed anymore.
Very sorry to hear. The good news is there’s plenty of options to secure your immigration status while figuring out next steps. USCIS released (somewhat relaxed) guidance on the current environment for non-citizen workers. You can find a list here https://twitter.com/debarghya_das/status/1605392365325205506... In summary, all the “gray zone” escape hatches like the 2 month grace period or the B-2 status change are co…
Completely irrelevant to him going to Canada. Not everyone is going to the US.
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A company uses the visa program typically under the reasoning "we need this kind of worker so bad that we can't hire locally" . So, if they are rescinding an offer, it's hard to support the original premise. Also, "extra shitty" seems obvious to me. You're not only not hired, you likely have to leave the country. The company rescinding the offer knows this.
Hum, no, the reasoning is "there are no suitable workers locally", which is very similar but still different. The fact that you rescinded an offer doesn't mean that suddenly local people are suitable, it just means this position isn't needed anymore.
A lot now depends on what country you are in, what visa you are on and what other visa you may qualify for. You may qualify for a temporary Schengen visa. That buys 90 days at least. The country you're in may cover cases like this. You should probably speak to an immigration lawyer in that country.
There's not really anything you can do about Amazon Canada rescinding your offer. It sucks but don't waste energy on it. Just move on.
I’m very sorry about this. You should look for another job. But make stink about this - write a letter to local congressman, senators and newspapers. It’s ok to hire and fire at will, but it should be not ok for Amazon to do this. A months pay is a spit in the face- they could have let you known upfront; it’s not like recession happened last night. You shouldn’t suffer for their mistake.
I've heard this in relation to banking (FATCA), and perhaps also regarding non-reciprocity of driving licenses.
So I'm guessing they'd be even less interested in the plight of a non-voter.
Is your current post already filled? I'm in the EU and filling positions left by people resigning has taken months. Talk to your old manager and HR. They might be more desperate than they appear.
Staying at a job that you resigned from is not a good idea, unless it’s very short term. For many reasons.
Stayed with that company for another 4 years (7.5 in total). It'll vary based on a lot of factors. Very few employers would begrudge someone going for a huge pay rise FAANG opportunity, and the fact that they got the role means they're good material.
As always it's going to depend on a huge number of factors. It doesn't have to be negative though.