The war on merit takes a bizarre turn

Post by fjord788 » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 6:24 AM UTC

salad-fan wrote: post #38

ipaddr wrote: post #29

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Why do you think your kids are safer at public school from being molested? The stats would say you are safer at Catholic school where lines are less blurred and fewer teachers date students. But most likely to commit such an act is a parent or someone close to the child. Sending them to any school might be the safest option.

What makes you think Catholic school kids don’t have parents or other relatives? And are you trying to argue that the Catholic Church does not have a history of child molestation? Because the evidence seems pretty overwhelming to me.

Post by trilbyglens » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 6:39 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #65

defrost wrote: post #57

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> This article concerns the metrics we use to decide how to advance kids into advanced educational opportunities. Not to my reading. I would summarise this as an article about the shortcomings of the National Merit Scholarship Corporation [1], their failure to put sufficient postage on notifications and their offloading of their notifications onto schools. [1] https://www.nationalmerit.org/s/1758/interior.aspx?sid=17…

That summary ignores all the relevant context. Since the 1980s, TJ has been a highly selective public high school. The average test scores there are comparable to several Ivy League colleges. As is common all over the world, TJ’s admissions process was based on standardized testing and grades. This was completely uncontroversial for decades. The National Merit Scholarship is based on a standardized test called the PS…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 6:54 AM UTC

imgabe wrote: post #70

ffssffss wrote: post #24

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This 22 second youtube video is the supporting evidence linked by the article for that "equal outcomes for every student" line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujpcvIsMZBU So, your guess is as good as mine, because that video certainly is not some kind of school policy position, as the article implies. I'm pretty suspect of the rest of it, since as someone else pointed out, the school actually did notify the students…

> So, your guess is as good as mine, because that video certainly is not some kind of school policy position, as the article implies. The person in the video is the superintendent of the Fairfax County Public schools who stated that "equal outcomes" are a priority for her upcoming tenure. Maybe not a policy directive, but the leader of the school system is stating that it is a priority they intend to focus on. The au…

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 6:56 AM UTC

eduction wrote: post #81

ffssffss wrote: post #24

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This 22 second youtube video is the supporting evidence linked by the article for that "equal outcomes for every student" line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujpcvIsMZBU So, your guess is as good as mine, because that video certainly is not some kind of school policy position, as the article implies. I'm pretty suspect of the rest of it, since as someone else pointed out, the school actually did notify the students…

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Post by chrismcb » Thu, Dec 22, 2022, 8:12 AM UTC

trilbyglens wrote: post #84

rayiner wrote: post #65

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That summary ignores all the relevant context. Since the 1980s, TJ has been a highly selective public high school. The average test scores there are comparable to several Ivy League colleges. As is common all over the world, TJ’s admissions process was based on standardized testing and grades. This was completely uncontroversial for decades. The National Merit Scholarship is based on a standardized test called the PS…

You're definitely right, but this conversation gets utterly muddled by the approaches that the right uses. Just click into the home page of that site, and see how every single article is something shitting "wokeness" or diversity. This is the texture of the debate right now in the US. The far right have colonized all theae reasonable positions as sort of gateways into more extreme ideology. What you say is reasonable…