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Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

#81

Slightly off topic, but I was with Three UK for a while. Reception was universally terrible, and trying to use mobile data was a joke. This was in a small urban centre... called London. Would never, ever touch them again. Back on topic, it seems that they are not using Bluecoat/Symantec Site review (which I suspect other providers do), which has the domain categorised correctly: https://sitereview.bluecoat.com/#/look…

If you do a lot of roaming / international travel, nothing I found, beats 3.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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> trying to use mobile data was a joke. [...] This was in a small urban centre... called London In any significantly built up area 4G is mostly a dice roll among the 3 major UK providers. There will be little consistency when moving between locations and even the same location will change over time. This is because the radio bands used in 4G are now so saturated that you are aiming for the _least_ popular provider in…

That is somewhat true, but seeing people on the train, browsing internet or watching YouTube just fine, when you can't load anything tell a different story. I even asked a few strangers what network they use and how come they have reception. This is the network I switched to eventually and indeed no more problems.

why not say the network? I don't think that's against HN guidelines.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

#83
They should reach out to other networks, get a referral deal (20% for three months or whatever) and reply to their users with "your ISP is blocking us, and many more sites, and is horrible in general; here, switch to one of the normal ones".

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Over the last 10 years I've used Three a few times for a short while but their reception where I am (in London) has always been awful. However, most recently I tried their 5G home broadband. It worked pretty well but I found a much better deal with Virgin Media so I tried to cancel under their 30 day "money back guarantee" and I've never had such a headache. Their store staff repeatedly lied to my face that it didn't…

The truth is that there isn't any consumer-grade telecoms/ISP provider that doesn't have awful support. You need to go enterprise-grade for any kind of competent support, but the prices will follow as well. Only exception to this would be A&A when it comes to DSL, which offers great & competent service at somewhat affordable prices: https://www.aa.net.uk Your best course of action is to never sign up to a contract (u…

I've been a happy customer of A&A for 18 years now - you do pay a little more, but well worth it for the unfiltered service and excellent tech support on the very rare occasion I've had a problem.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

#85
The UK is almost as bad an enemy of the Internet as Australia and the nanny-state filters are beyond obnoxious. Back when I was with “Vodafone Full Fibre broadband” (in reality shitty VDSL because the truth-in-advertising authority gave ISPs license to lie), they had accidentally blocked StackOverflow for 3 days because it was actually the test site for implementation of the filters and they had been turned on by accident.

A VPN is essential to defend yourself from the jackbooted UK government. I run my own, based on my https://GitHub.com/fazalmajid/edgewalker/

As for Three, their 4G is abysmal but they have the best 5G coverage.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

#86
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It is not the job of an ISP to decide what is fraudulent and what is not. They should be a dumb pipe between services and people.

It shouldn't be the role of the ISP, but in the UK content blocking is legally mandated. E.g., "The Digital Economy Act 2017 placed the requirement for ISP filtering into law and introduced a requirement for ISPs to block pornographic sites with inadequate age verification." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_blocking_in_the_United_Kin...

Yeah but email is a service completely unrelated to porn.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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The same privacy preserving features of Tutanota enjoyed by privacy conscious individuals, make it ideal for fraudsters. We experience a large number of fraudulent ecommerce orders using Tutanota email domains. I'm not shocked to think that this could be an example of an algorithm gone awry based on the signals it received.

Fraudulent ecommerce orders are the only time I've seen tutanota addresses in the wild.

then it should be up to your company to say "hey we don't allow emails from X" and not do business with them. Like someone said in a previous thread "ISPs shoudl be dumb pipes", otherwise they get a nanny complex. Credit cards seem to be doing the same thing these days, acting like nannies.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

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Slightly off topic, but I was with Three UK for a while. Reception was universally terrible, and trying to use mobile data was a joke. This was in a small urban centre... called London. Would never, ever touch them again. Back on topic, it seems that they are not using Bluecoat/Symantec Site review (which I suspect other providers do), which has the domain categorised correctly: https://sitereview.bluecoat.com/#/look…

Had a similar experience and everyone I know has nothing but bad things to say about Three UK. It doesn't surprise me that it's the least popular network out of the 4 main mobile operators. https://www.statista.com/statistics/375986/market-share-held...

Three UK made me jump through quite a few hoops when I decided to leave them, and then kept billing me after I'd cancelled the contract (at the end of the tie-in period) and had returned all hardware. I ended up having to escalate things to the ombudsman in order to have them resolved. Would never go anywhere near Three ever again.

Re: Threeuk is blocking Tutanota

#89
The great British firewall, starts here, ends where?

As I understand, the lists are maintained per carrier but implemented based on UK regulation. I still find it baffling that despite giving extensive personal information (ID/Passport, bill as proof of address, credit score) to get a mobile contract for an adult, this is opt-out with no questions asked (for example "do you wish to enable/disable this feature?" when the contract is signed). This leaves a lot of room for abuse, as it's demonstrated here.

Personal anecdote, I had to phone Three to disable the filter a few years back when I wanted to browse 9GAG on my commute to work...

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