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Re: Atom was archived today

#81
I just uninstalled the app. I'll miss it.

What's the most popular replacement for a text editor with code support? VS Code? I was looking into Nova, but I'd assume an open-source editor would be updated more frequently and have more themes etc.

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the laptop fans…

Oh, no, those won't be silent when using anything electron

I haven’t heard the fan of my M1 laptop since this summer, and I have multiple electron apps almost always running.

Now, if I move the mouse a bit fast on my i9 laptop, it’s time for hairdryer mode.

I think the silence depends more on the hardware than the software.

Re: Atom was archived today

#83

I was a noob when Atom was new and I remember thinking it was unusably slow. Took a minute to realize that I had loaded my entire computer's directory, not just the project I was working on.

That's because it was (and is) slow compared to true compiled applications. Just because VSCode has about 1000 tortured dev's making it usable doesn't mean its not fundamentally flawed on its face using a scripting language for text editing.

https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32

Spread the TRUTH - praise be compiled programs...

Re: Atom was archived today

#86

To add to everything else people are reminiscing about, here's Atom's very fun announcement trailer from 7 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7aEiVwBAdk

On its announcement it made my 2014 netbook overheat and lag like an ssh terminal in south Peru.

RIP

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #7

Sad to see this go. I was an early adopter of Atom, and I wrote two extensions for it, one of which while it was still in beta. The Atom developers made some technology choices that in retrospect were ill-advised, CoffeeScript being the worst of them and splitting everything into dozens of packages a close second. They tried to backpedal on both of these later on, but by that time VSCode, with its far superior engine…

People hate on electron, but it's a pretty amazing piece of tech if you ask me. I can turn a browser game into a steam game with basically no effort which is nice because browsers change over time and electron helps you get a working offline snapshot of something you created.

The people that hate on Electron aren't amused by cute browser tricks.

Re: Atom was archived today

#88
post #79

For those looking for a good substitute, I've switched to Sublime Text and so far I've gotten it to pretty much a near-perfect replica of the original. Kind of surprising to me how much of the Atom UI was built to mimic the Sublime interface. I also tried VSCode, but was never really quite able to get into the interface the same way. For a while I tried customizing the interface with plugins like CustomizeUI, but Mic…

> was never really quite able to get the [VS Code] interface the same way You're at least the 3rd person I've seen make that observation in this thread. I don't get how VS Code made this so hard, isn't it fundamentally built on a fork of Atom's core? The CSS and JS customization seemed more capable and accessible in Atom somehow. I've heard only good things about the Sublime Text UX for literally a decade or more, bu…

> I've heard only good things about the Sublime Text UX for literally a decade or more, but is it "hackable" in the way that Atom and VS Code are?

The vast majority of the UI uses a custom GUI toolkit and doesn't have any API, though you can theme it. There's a few things that are extensible in limited ways: the command palette, text phantoms, input boxes, html sheets, etc. So no it's not generally hackable.

Re: Atom was archived today

#89

I just uninstalled the app. I'll miss it. What's the most popular replacement for a text editor with code support? VS Code? I was looking into Nova, but I'd assume an open-source editor would be updated more frequently and have more themes etc.

I've been living with VS Code for the last year at work and it's nice, it feels less like an Electron app than Atom did. I still use Sublime Text at home (and for pesky column edit and other tricks I know in Sublime).

Nova is a nice update from Coda 2, but it lacks the plugin community to really shine unless it does everything you want today. I kept opening it up because I wanted to like it, but after a year I let my license lapse.

Re: Atom was archived today

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Atom predated the LSP and leaned heavily into customizations with all the plugins running inside the UI thread (more like a traditional web page and 3p scripts). At the time they viewed the extreme customization support as a feature, and there was a thriving ecosystem of folks making plugins. That architecture has a major flaw though. A default install was fast, but a real configuration with all the plugins ended up…

VSCode is one of the greatest pieces of engineering of our time. It's really only when you compare it with Atom that you realize how great it is. Atom was built by incredibly smart people, who had full control over the platform and several years of head start, and they were still out-engineered by the VSCode team at every turn. VSCode did almost everything right: The choice of TypeScript as the base language (with wh…

"VSCode is the greatest productivity tool in the history of software engineering" in a world where vi and emacs exist seems like a bit of an exaggeration, and I'm not even a fan of either (VS Code is my daily driver; I like my GUI editors and I like them to behave like normal apps on the platform I'm running).
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