I don't know any javascript, but is it really that bad of a language that you need new libraries every day and workarounds so that you don't have to write it?
Yep!
Htmx in a Nutshell
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#83> The fastest way to get going with htmx is to load it via a CDN HTMLX is great and all, but loading it from a CDN is insecure and wrought with problems. Namely, the JS file in question could be hijacked and replaced with a malicious version that can steal data. It's unlikely, but still a plausible scenario. Also: the resource could just 404 and not be available due to work-in-progress scenarios on the CDN side. I wo…
It’s not hard to have it imported from node modules and built with webpack or similar
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#84I am burnt out (but recovering!) with web dev and htmx is what I am using for my project. Django, DRF, Postgres, tailwind and HTMX. I am so tired of all the front end frameworks and all the complexity that gets added. At some point I think you need it and you get returns from it but hearing more people in the industry recognize and talk about how JS everything isn't always the answer gives me hope. I like what HTMX h…
I am so tired of everyone complaining about complexity in front end frameworks, as if this sort of thing doesn't exist in other languages and stacks, and as if frontend dev isn't as complex as other domains. Just ignore them or do something else.
> as if this sort of thing doesn't exist in other languages and stacks
It doesn't.
For example in the Java world and in the last 10 years there were only two "frameworks". Just Spring and Oracle/Java EE
Now two more have appeared (Quarkus and Micronaut) bringing the total number of frameworks to 4.
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#85> The fastest way to get going with htmx is to load it via a CDN HTMLX is great and all, but loading it from a CDN is insecure and wrought with problems. Namely, the JS file in question could be hijacked and replaced with a malicious version that can steal data. It's unlikely, but still a plausible scenario. Also: the resource could just 404 and not be available due to work-in-progress scenarios on the CDN side. I wo…
I haven't done much frontend dev work, but I thought that's what the integrity keyword is for:
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#86I'm confused about what value this adds. The introductory example is certainly not helpful, as it takes an ` Blog ` and turns into 7 lines of markup to accomplish the same thing. (And then it says a bunch of things that are arguably not desirable, like "any element can now trigger requests".) Like: what's the point of using this over HTML5+js? I've spent 15 minutes reading the website and I still don't understand why…
Consider the case of calling your backend with a POST call and then updating your app in response.
Typically, for a SPA: your backend would return some data, and your frontend would then figure out how to update your html in response to it.
For a multi-page-app: your backend will redirect the user to a whole new page with new HTML.
This is somewhere in between: Your backend will send just a little bit of HTML and you can update your existing HTML with it. It should feel like coding an MPA, but get the benefits of an SPA.
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#87> The fastest way to get going with htmx is to load it via a CDN HTMLX is great and all, but loading it from a CDN is insecure and wrought with problems. Namely, the JS file in question could be hijacked and replaced with a malicious version that can steal data. It's unlikely, but still a plausible scenario. Also: the resource could just 404 and not be available due to work-in-progress scenarios on the CDN side. I wo…
> I would much rather host it on my own domain that I control.
You can and they encourage users to consider not using CDNs in production
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#88I'm confused about what value this adds. The introductory example is certainly not helpful, as it takes an ` Blog ` and turns into 7 lines of markup to accomplish the same thing. (And then it says a bunch of things that are arguably not desirable, like "any element can now trigger requests".) Like: what's the point of using this over HTML5+js? I've spent 15 minutes reading the website and I still don't understand why…
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#89howdy, I'm the creator of htmx, happy to talk about it
You have mentioned here and in other places that you use HTMX + HyperScript in production. Curious what that looks like, is it part of consulting, a side business, a day job ?
Re: Htmx in a Nutshell
#90Htmx isn’t everything I want it to be, but it lets me program python back end with a mostly python api.
I use it for http://golfcourse.wiki and I’d recommend it to others who prefer to avoid JS when they can.