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SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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Huh?

Not the parent, I can’t speak for them. But sometimes I have a paranoid notion that the managerial and legal class have constructed systems where they contain some liability into a black box, then hire someone unknowing to live in the box. The people outside the box are just designing the process and “relying” on the box to behave as expected. The people inside the box don’t know about the context and therefore don’t…

The movie Cube is an exploration of your black box concept.

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0123755/

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

#83
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Any successful SPACs out there?

MP Materials is trading well above its IPO price. That said, there were some shareholder lawsuits earlier this year, alleging various sketchy things.

If anyone is interested here's the lawsuit. https://thebrios.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2022-02-22-B...

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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"managerial and legal class" implying people of certain professions are involved in a conspiracy is extremely paranoid.

I don’t mean to imply that any set of people is inherently “in on” such a conspiracy. I imagine it would evolve organically and every individual case would be different. Lawyers get paid to advise people how to avoid legal liability. Managers get paid to handle problems, and sometimes to recognize which problems the people one level up would rather not know the details of. I don’t think it’s off base to say that mana…

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Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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UP probably not the best example of a successful public offering: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/UP:NYSE

where do I say it was successful? that was an answer to "not really"

You were replying to a comment asking “Ant Successful”, so…

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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Due to how SPACs work, investors will be getting most of their money back. Typically they IPO at $10. The money gets returned if no deal is made. > Concord’s sponsors will throw in the towel and return roughly $10.17 a share to investors, the SPAC said in a subsequent filing. The stock closed at a high of $13 in November 2021 and garnered attention from Wood’s Ark Investment, which is among the SPAC’s biggest investo…

Probably Ark's best performing investment of the year

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh?

Not the parent, I can’t speak for them. But sometimes I have a paranoid notion that the managerial and legal class have constructed systems where they contain some liability into a black box, then hire someone unknowing to live in the box. The people outside the box are just designing the process and “relying” on the box to behave as expected. The people inside the box don’t know about the context and therefore don’t…

sheesh. I'm talking about us paying for a file delivery service because we want to make a report about something like total number of dividends announced last week or something like that. You'd be able to do that with a daily corporate action file from about 25 different vendors. But a corporate action file contains a lot more than dividend announcements!

The vendor says that for records of type A, characters 12-17 represent a unique ID or something else that is very boring. For records of type B, characters 15-25 represent another ridiculously dumb thing that I do not care about, but the vendor says it will never be missing and will always validate with a checksum algorithm.

I'm being pretty opaque on purpose.

For this particular SPAC merger, there is always something wrong with the record. And I, being someone who neither built the system nor is authorized to change it, must go in, read the stupid text about the buzzword-filled company description, count 723 empty spaces on a single line to find where the error is located, verify that something is missing, and go have a little meeting where we discuss whether to ask the vendor to fix and resend, edit the file to put dummy data in, or just delete the damn record because nobody on our end cares if it exists.

I mean, I guess that could be nefarious, but it's really not. We have to pay extra to get only the stuff we want, so we just get it all and let the hapless developers deal with it.

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

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TLDR:

Alec Gores, a well-known backer of special-purpose acquisition companies (SPACs), and former Barclays CEO Bob Diamond have seen two deals worth $10.6bn fail within an hour of each other. Gores Holdings VIII said it would not be merging with materials science tech firm Footprint, while Concord Acquisition pulled the plug on its deal with stablecoin issuer Circle Internet Financial. The cancellations are part of a broader downturn in the SPAC market, which has seen more than 55 transactions terminated this year.

Re: SPACs collapse as $11B of deals are called off within an hour

#90

What is a SPAC?

It's a company that goes public (trades on a stock exchange) with no actual business. It sells new shares (traditionally for $10 each) to investors, creates a pot of money (the size needed determines the number of shares sold) and promises a business model of "acquire [existing thing]". It then has some amount of time to set up the acquisition and get the shareholders to approve it. If it doesn't, the $10/share (plus interest) is returned to them.

The thing being acquired gets to go public without needing an IPO. The people who buy the SPAC end up owning shares of the thing.

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