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Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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post #19

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Twitter 3.0, now with blockchain and rug pulls!

By then only Tesla/Elon fanboys and Crypto people will be using Twitter. Tech guys moved to Mastodon and Celebrities to Instagram and Tiktok. :(

Probably a very high overlap between those two audiences.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#82
post #34

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> First Twitter was going to crash in a week Was it? I read a lot of comments saying that mass-firing people is going to cause immediate degradation in some areas like content moderation (which we have seen) and eventual unpredictable failures in others. If you saw people predicting a sudden crash I'd take their opinion with a pinch of salt in the future, sounds like quite a reactionary take. > then it was everyone w…

Stuff also actually did break.

Yeah probably - I just wasn't aware of anything too high-profile or calamitous

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#83

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It's not like A/B tests approach anything like the rigor that we expect from actual science, though.

It's about marketing, the A/B testing they do, not science.

what is not scientific about it? maybe its not good science, but it is science. really almost anything is science...

Science is just observation and experimentation.

Science doesn't dictate how you do the above. Now, someone would find it impossible to reproduce your findings, but - that would just suggest bad science

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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Twitter was previously doing A/B tests. Spaces, communities, downvotes, circles, and even moderation were applied only to a subset of accounts while they actively experimented. The new policy is an objectively less scientific approach to testing functionality than what was occurring before.

It's not like A/B tests approach anything like the rigor that we expect from actual science, though.

Most scientists likely wish they could get the rigor of a company like Twitter's a/b testing suite.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#86
post #22

Twitter is totalled. There is no recovery or any amount of repair that will convince anyone that the platform is worth consuming or saving.

Don't you think the news of its death are greatly exaggerated?

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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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post #50
post #8

> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. "Nothing has changed, except..." > Our Trust & Safety team continues its diligent work to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct, abusive behavior, and any violation of Twitter's rules. The team remains strong and well-resourc…

Yeah... Also, the unbanning of users previously considered hateful also directly conflicts with "to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct"

Remember way back before the era of social media mob justice, when there was this concept of 'forgiveness'?

At least some of the banned deserve a second chance. Those who were total monsters will probably be quickly re-banned. Others have found their own echo chambers elsewhere and won't even bother coming back.

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

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> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach.

They recently unbanned many controversial accounts based solely on Twitter polls. Who do they expect will believe these statements?

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#89
post #50
post #8

> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. "Nothing has changed, except..." > Our Trust & Safety team continues its diligent work to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct, abusive behavior, and any violation of Twitter's rules. The team remains strong and well-resourc…

Yeah... Also, the unbanning of users previously considered hateful also directly conflicts with "to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct"

Anybody would agree with you given the following two assumptions-

That these previously banned users were banned for conduct that they would consider hateful

That banning users is the only way to keep the platform safe from hateful conduct

If twitter disagrees with either of these statements, you can see why they would disagree with your point

Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation

#90
post #12

TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, it can be boiled down to "don't worry, we still prioritize brand safety like before". It does have this gem in it: "What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation. As you’ve seen over the past several weeks, Twitter is embracing public testing. We believe that this open and transparent approach to innovation is healthy, as it enables us to move faster an…

It sort of makes sense if the experiment is about judging not just individual user reactions but the wider reaction of the media, advertisers, "the conversation" to a change.

I don't think that makes it a good idea though, seems like each failed "experiment" poisons the pool and certainly makes it possible to do experiments in isolation.

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