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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by phpisthebest »

mullingitover wrote: post #71
phpisthebest wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traditional family values (not christian) but traditional nuclear family, traditional job / working to provide for a family, traditional parenting, etc. Anyone that does not have the term "CIS" in their vocabulary is called "alt-right" online

I've never heard of these things as being 'alt-right.' If, anything the ability to have a 'traditional' family with a single wage earner and a full-time homemaker mother is simply an overt mark of privilege (because who else can afford to raise a family on a single income in this century?), not a mark of being right-wing. If you're saying that other, non-traditional family structures are something degenerate, yes, yo…

Then you clearly did not spend much time on pre-elon twitter where it was often the case.

Infact more than one story has been posted on Twitter calling the "'traditional' family with a single wage earner and a full-time homemaker mother" actively dangerous to women in general and something that should not only be advocated against but actively resisted.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by UncleOxidant »

raphlinus wrote: post #3

I've also moved from Twitter to Mastodon, for the same reasons, and have a similar experience - the raw follower count is still a fraction as before, but a lot of interesting people I want to connect with are already there. And the feeling is... very different. There was lots about Twitter that subtly enraged me, like pop-sci Covid takes showing up in my algorithmic feed after I had extremely carefully curated my fol…

> I was finding that Twitter was bad for my mental health,

Same here. It's all that rage-boosting the algorithms do to increase engagement. I deleted my twitter account back in May and went to mastodon. It's been so much more pleasant and non-addictive.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by camdenlock »

allthecybers wrote: post #64

I just don't understand the need to announce your decision to stop using a particular social media platform. It's a free web service. You can use it or not. I guess I should have made an announcement when I switched away from Gmail. "Hello everyone, I have decided to leave Gmail. I'll keep my account active, and still receive email there but I'm definitely leaving. I can't support Google which is a poster child of su…

In this case, it’s a way to signal one’s fealty to a very specific ideology.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by throw0101c »

branon wrote: post #15

Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: - keeping his account active, poised to return immediately (but still, definitely leaving) - maybe posting on Twitter occasionally to point people to ongoing resources (but still, definitely leaving) - highl…

> Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by:

"This guy" is Tim Bray, who quit as a VP of AWS over its treatment of employees:

* https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/tim-bray-quit-amazon-web-se...

* https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leaving-A...

> Bray, who was born in Alberta, went to University of Guelph and who worked in Vancouver, was a distinguished engineer, a coveted title large tech companies award to senior technologists. The decision will likely cost him more than $1 million in loss of salary and unvested Amazon stock, “not to mention the best job I ever had,” he said.

* https://financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/amazon-engin...

Dude co-authored both the XML spec and the JSON spec (RFC 7159/8259):

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Bray

He has principles and he's willing to put himself out there for them.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by camdenlock »

rgbrenner wrote: post #26

You can tell when the Elon fanboys feel threatened by how much they object to someone freely making a choice about where to spend their time. How dare this person make an announcement on their own website about their own decision about what websites they like?!

Maybe some of us have no particular opinion on Musk either way, but rather are shocked by the narrow-mindedness of the response to Twitter opening up and not being so ideologically captured.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by sidibe »

zrail wrote: post #67
rgbrenner wrote: post #26

You can tell when the Elon fanboys feel threatened by how much they object to someone freely making a choice about where to spend their time. How dare this person make an announcement on their own website about their own decision about what websites they like?!

I'm not surprised that they're all over this thread. Not even disappointed. Mostly disappointed in myself for how much I thought this site was somehow better.

There's not that many of them anymore tbh. Some thread titles attract them in strong numbers like this one, in most threads these days they are a heavily downvoted minority

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by bArray »

> What I’m doing · I’m not closing or deleting my account, because Twitter might come back, who knows.

> I’ll still use Twitter to post pointers to ongoing pieces because that benefits me, not Elon.

So not really leaving.

> Are people really leaving Twitter? · Yes. [..] So, suppose I’m right about Twitter…

The evidence is that Mastodon users are increasing, and therefore leaving Twitter. The assumption is that they are not doing exactly what this author is doing, and signing up to both.

> Why Mastodon will succeed

I was just reading how every time jwz posts, they receive a DDoS from other servers loading the content [1]. The problems scale as the users do.

> General-purpose (non-affinity-group) instances won’t be free; typical charges will be $5-10/month.

I assume that means either using crypto or a central payment system. People were hesitant to pay $8 for Twitter believing it should be free, how will you get them to pay if they can just move to a free instance?

> They will compete on the quality of their moderation and spam/abuse prevention.

None of them have the resources to do this. Twitter had quite a large moderation team being paid a lot of money to work on this problem full time. You'll either end up in an echo chamber (reducing need for moderation) or there will be little to no moderation.

All that said, this person was likely more suited to a platform of shorter writing, rather than these longer form pieces. It contradicts itself in places.

[1] https://www.jwz.org/blog/2022/11/mastodon-stampede/

EDIT: Less inflammatory.

Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by shrimp_emoji »

branon wrote: post #15

Nice. I've always been a firm believer that you haven't _really_ left a platform unless you first make a blog post loudly proclaiming that you're _definitely leaving_ but this guy takes it a few steps further by: - keeping his account active, poised to return immediately (but still, definitely leaving) - maybe posting on Twitter occasionally to point people to ongoing resources (but still, definitely leaving) - highl…

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Re: Bye, Twitter

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Post by throw0101c »

allthecybers wrote: post #64

I just don't understand the need to announce your decision to stop using a particular social media platform. It's a free web service. You can use it or not. I guess I should have made an announcement when I switched away from Gmail. "Hello everyone, I have decided to leave Gmail. I'll keep my account active, and still receive email there but I'm definitely leaving. I can't support Google which is a poster child of su…

> I just don't understand the need to announce […]

It's a statement of principles. To bring attention to, and shine light on, what (he thinks) is a problem.

Just like he did went he quit a lucrative job as VP of AWS when Amazon mistreated employees:

* https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leaving-A...

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