What is the next physical connector standard after USB-C? Is there one on the roadmap that is likely to happen or is USB-C "The End of History" when it comes to connectors?
India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
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Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
Micro-USB was standardized like this. And the law included a clause that said it had to be reviewed regularly to keep up with industry progress - which is why it is now switching to USB-C.
This is wrong. The EU issued an MoU and a charging standard which was voluntary . It was nothing more than them asking nicely to please use Micro-B. This is a law . It's completely different. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_supply
True, it wasn't legally required - I should have been more careful with that phrasing - but the signatories had a market share of over 80%. It was well-understood that they would be legally forced to if they did not voluntarily comply - which makes the "voluntary" part a bit moot.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#83What is the next physical connector standard after USB-C? Is there one on the roadmap that is likely to happen or is USB-C "The End of History" when it comes to connectors?
With this kind of legislation, why would anyone invest in creating a connector they cannot market? This pretty much enforces an "end of history" kind of USB-c connector standard.
I can see things moving more to the wireless realm (Qi for loading, WiFi/Bluetooth/LoRa for data) after this.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is disingenous to compare USB-C to power plugs. USB-C does a million more things than power delivery and there is significantly more room for innovation. > Nobody prevents any manufacturer to add additional charging ports. Except for market demands of smaller phones. My question to you is: would you have wanted micro-USB to be standardized like this?
Micro-USB was standardized like this. And the law included a clause that said it had to be reviewed regularly to keep up with industry progress - which is why it is now switching to USB-C.
>Micro-USB was standardized like this.
How many Micro-USB Iphones have been sold in the EU?
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#85I feel like EU and India are missing the obvious here - Apple will just remove the ability to charge via cable, and create even more e-waste and waste energy.
The EU is already monitoring wireless charging and will step in the same way if there isn't an industry-wide standard soon.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#86I'm sure I'm not the first person to raise this concern but when tech improves to the point where there's a better option to USB C (or USB C is holding back other advances), are we going to have to wait for legislation to catch up before we can adopt it?
How did USB C get adopted by everyone but Apple? All the companies will come together and decide to move to USB D because it's better.
As I understand it USB is always backwards compatible so it wouldn't be a problem.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Micro USB was the EU standard, you already lived through that. That's why every Android and gadget out there used it, as opposed to 50 other connectors before that on feature phones. Apple found a loophole around it by shipping a dongle with iPhones. With the update to the standard that loophole was closed.
This is often repeated, but wrong. The EU issued a Memorandum of Understanding asking phone manufacturers to use micro B. MoU are not laws, they have no force behind them. Micro B was never required or mandated. It was literally the EU saying "hey guys, please use micro-B on your phone" (with an implicit threat that actual legislation may follow if you don't). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_external_power_sup…
Yeah, but the EU said back then: "You either find a common standard, or we're gonna legislate." Companies didn't want legislation, so most of them complied.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#88Good job. Basically anything up to 100w, unless it has some other niche requirement (waterproof, etc) should be mandated USB C, IMHO.
That's basically the EU's requirement. Mobile phones get all the coverage, but the requirement covers mobile phones, tablets, digital cameras, headphones and headsets, handheld videogame consoles, portable speakers, e-readers, keyboards, mice, portable navigation systems, earbuds and laptops; as long as they are rechargeable via a wired cable that delivers up to 100w.
The specific law covers electronic devices with a built in radio and battery.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#89I feel like EU and India are missing the obvious here - Apple will just remove the ability to charge via cable, and create even more e-waste and waste energy.
How does moving to inductive charging create more e-waste? Unless you just mean in the very short term of course.
Re: India follows EU's example in requiring USB-C charging for smart devices
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is disingenous to compare USB-C to power plugs. USB-C does a million more things than power delivery and there is significantly more room for innovation. > Nobody prevents any manufacturer to add additional charging ports. Except for market demands of smaller phones. My question to you is: would you have wanted micro-USB to be standardized like this?
> Except for market demands of smaller phones Aren't phones getting larger and larger pretty much every year?
>Aren't phones getting larger and larger pretty much every year?
Not really. And the choice between battery life and a second charging port nobody cares about, because it isn't "the one" is rather obvious.