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What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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post #55

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lol to each their own. Hopefully you stashed away a couple years of food and lots of guns

Is there a plausible situation where you'd be unable to acquire food for a couple of years and then you'd start being able to acquire food?

Why not? I mean, you could ask the same question for 1 week, 1 month, 6 months, whatever.

And I don't think it's an immediate zero-to-normal kind of situation. You might be unable to get much/any food at all for a week or three, and then you might only be able to get emergency rations from the government. And then after a few months, some staples might start trickling in, with increasing quantities over time.

Eventually, after a year or so, things might be back to some reasonable percentage of normal. But all throughout, given high levels of stress, anxiety, and uncertainty, it'd probably be nice to not have to worry too much about what kind and quantity of food you'll be able to get, because you already have enough to last you a long time.

If we're talking about "a couple" years, and the situation is still essentially that no food is available for purchase or from the government, I expect the situation is so bad that society has at least partially collapsed. By that point I would think you would have needed to relocate, and have started growing your own food or hunting, well before you get to the couple-of-years point. But I suppose if you did actually store a couple of years of food, and you had a stable, safe, and secure shelter location, you could probably stay.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#82

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My entire financial planning model is founded on a lack of global thermonuclear war. Now I need to figure out what to short so I can take advantage of this black swan event? Eh, this is good for crypto.

Let me just login in to the intern... oh right. Well the radios should still wor... no? Shit. I need to pay for clean water from my neighbor.

This is the only thing that makes me want to learn radio. I don't want to buy expensive gear, but being able to build my own DIY QRP (low-power) DX (long-distance) CW (Morse) transceiver? Count me in.

Too bad there doesn't seem to be extensive information to introduce us digital engineers to the hobby.

I don't want a kit. I want to learn the fundamentals so I can be ready when the society collapses and the ham übermenschen rule the world.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#83
post #11

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Seems to be a 5V55K type motor and S-300 sized crater: https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/1592618577622093824

Yeah, they've been repurposing those particular surface-to-air missiles for land attacks since around July. [1] [1] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russia-now-firing-s-30...

'A ukrainian official alleged...'

There, fixed that for you.

5V55K has the range of 47 km, Russia is much further from Poland than that.

Ukraine, on the other hand, uses Soviet S-300.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#84

The site is down so I can only speculate what it recommends. Whatever it is, I suspect it is not a list of suggestions for how to avoid nuclear disasters altogether. Because that is simply not in vogue. It seems we must all accept as something inevitable to have the specter of millions dead, if not billions, if not life as we know it, hanging over our heads for time eternal. Because we as humans are seemingly only en…

> Because that is simply not in vogue The hostile responses you've go this do rather demonstrate your point. Building peace in a world bristling with nukes held by independent sovereignties with limited information about each other and often incongruent self-defined 'interests', is indeed a hard problem. Hard problems require work and thought and research to try to solve. If conditions change to make the problem hard…

The reason this problem is so hard is because it's tragedy of the commons. That might just be our great filter.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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post #11

I suppose this is of special interest now since Poland, a NATO member, got hit by what sounds like an errant missile from Russia recently. [1] Reading the first part, I think the best thing that could happen in the event some big red buttons get pushed is that if you're next to a military base you're probably going to be vaporized along with it if you can't evacuate. Trying to survive that kind of thing sounds way wo…

Seems to be a 5V55K type motor and S-300 sized crater: https://twitter.com/JakeGodin/status/1592618577622093824

Dark patterns / regwall: https://nitter.net/JakeGodin/status/1592618577622093824>

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#86
post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me just login in to the intern... oh right. Well the radios should still wor... no? Shit. I need to pay for clean water from my neighbor.

This is the only thing that makes me want to learn radio. I don't want to buy expensive gear, but being able to build my own DIY QRP (low-power) DX (long-distance) CW (Morse) transceiver? Count me in. Too bad there doesn't seem to be extensive information to introduce us digital engineers to the hobby. I don't want a kit. I want to learn the fundamentals so I can be ready when the society collapses and the ham überme…

The ARRL Handbook is still the best overall introductory material, I think. Depends on how old-school you want to get. SDR? Pre-SDR digital techniques? Analog-only? Analog-only with discrete transistors? Vacuum tubes...? The Handbook will bring you up to speed on all but the latter, and for that, there's always the older editions.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me just login in to the intern... oh right. Well the radios should still wor... no? Shit. I need to pay for clean water from my neighbor.

This is the only thing that makes me want to learn radio. I don't want to buy expensive gear, but being able to build my own DIY QRP (low-power) DX (long-distance) CW (Morse) transceiver? Count me in. Too bad there doesn't seem to be extensive information to introduce us digital engineers to the hobby. I don't want a kit. I want to learn the fundamentals so I can be ready when the society collapses and the ham überme…

The license they make you take is all fundamentals... There are hundreds of books and YouTube channels on the topic.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

#88

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Apparently getting under their desks was on the off-chance their school is far enough away to avoid being incinerated but still close enough for a pressure wave to blow out all the glass in the windows and turn it into projectiles.

Do the math. There's a damned good chance that you are, in fact, in the zone where duck-and-cover survival measures are effective.

Everyone, especially in pseudo-intellectual circles like HN sneers at the whole "duck and cover" thing but any grade schooler can look a the concentric circles on a map and tell you that the area in which you'd best protect your noggin from the drop ceiling dropping a little more than designed is far greater than the area in which burns are a problem.

Re: What to do if a nuclear disaster is imminent [pdf]

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> It takes literally 0 imagination to avoid nuclear disasters altogether. A handful of people in the entire world need not to do something extremely stupid. They can leave their special keys at home, overwrite the codes with baseball scores in their mind, and no nuclear apocalypse will happen. The fact that this has not happened is not due to a failure of imagination. That doesn't mean the reason is good, obviously,…

Absolutely not! Is this because I have failed to imagine a world without a nuclear threat, or because the problem is very hard? Not the former! As proof see counterexample- I can imagine a nukeless world just fine.

I'm confused - do you know what it takes to avoid nuclear disaster (in fact) or not?
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