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The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.

I'm 6'10. What is built in my favor?

Becoming a CEO or other high status job.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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I'm 6'10. What is built in my favor?

Basketball goal. Volleyball net. Gutters on single story house. Definitely not chairs, door frames, showers, or beds.

Drawback to that first one - Everyone asking if you play basketball. Especially obnoxious during junior high - No, I just put on like two feet of growth, I'm lucky if I can even figure out where my feet are, to say nothing of running with them.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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I'm going to continue reclining my seat as soon as cleared to do so after takeoff until requested to return it to an upright postition before landing. If the person behind me has an issue, they can politely request me to accommodate them and depending on the flight. One of us may be able to move seats or depending on the height of the person and time/length of the flight I may leave the seat up.

However, is someone is rude, entitled or aggressive when they ask. There is little to no way I will go out of my way to do anything to make them more comfortable.

Given the frequency with which it is an issue (rarely), it makes more sense to wait to be asked not to do it than to ask if I can do it every time.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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Yet people continue to vote their purchasing dollars for too-tight seat spacing - because the cost of roomier seats is for-sure and up-front. Vs. hope springs eternal on the reality that you'll get.

The options are usually either “dirt cheap economy” or “crazy expensive business”. For some reason business class is often like 5x 6x the economy! Why is there no middle class?

Probably because the profit they'd lose by business class travelers downgrading to it would be more than the profit they'd gain by economy class travelers upgrading to it.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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So many things are biased in favor of tall people, I have no problem with them having to pay more for a larger seat rather than externalizing those costs onto everyone else.

Do you have any examples of things biased in favor of tall people?

_Life at the top_ by Nobel Laureate Angus Deaton:

"According to the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index daily poll of the US population, taller people live better lives, at least on average. They evaluate their lives more favorably, and they are more likely to report a range of positive emotions such as enjoyment and happiness. They are also less likely to report a range of negative experiences, like sadness, and physical pain, though they are more likely to experience stress and anger, and if they are women, to worry. These findings cannot be attributed to different demographic or ethnic characteristics of taller people, but are almost entirely explained by the positive association between height and both income and education, both of which are positively linked to better lives."

Link (PDF): https://www.princeton.edu/~deaton/downloads/Deaton_Life_at_t...

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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Was this a problem the internet invented? It used to be that no one seemingly cared and everyone reclined their seat as soon as takeoff was over. I guess the modern era is creating new unwritten social contracts. For what it's worth - I never mind. I get to partake in the miracle of flight. And they only give you, like, 3 inches of recline anyway. Just take it.

This pre-dates the Internet (or at least WWW) by a considerable amount of time.

It was controversial to some back when you could still smoke on a plane.

EDIT: I agree with other posters that this became a bigger problem as the airlines reduced seat space over time.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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I’m in camp if they give you the option you have to assume the person in front will fully recline. No point in getting mad over it. If you want or need more space just get the premium seats if it means that much to you.

I'm hearing that because I'm 6'6" I should either be able to pay for premium or just never fly. That's a good excuse to get out an in-laws wedding next summer - I'll run it by my wife.

Every now and then I fly in a small plane that takes me from a major hub to my hometown about 200 miles away. Basically if I’m already at the airport coming off another flight, it’s easier just to hop on a plane than Uber an hour away across the metro and then drive back down south.

The plane only has 55 seats and no premium seats. I see tall people struggle all of the time.

Re: The ethics of reclining airplane seats

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yet people continue to vote their purchasing dollars for too-tight seat spacing - because the cost of roomier seats is for-sure and up-front. Vs. hope springs eternal on the reality that you'll get.

The options are usually either “dirt cheap economy” or “crazy expensive business”. For some reason business class is often like 5x 6x the economy! Why is there no middle class?

Business class is just that - usually paid with someone else’s money and therefore those passengers aren’t price sensitive.
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