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India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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USA is the number one threat to democracy in the USA. There's no point continuing to blame China, Russia or whoever else for domestic problems.

Nation-state hackers from Russia and China are certainly running active campaigns in US elections to disrupt or manipulate them. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/10/17/chinese-h... Best evidence of this is the previous 2020 elections.

CIA Officer Frank Snepp Discusses Planting Stories in Vietnam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwerBZG83YM

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Do millennial and gen-z Indians have a similarly skeptical view towards capitalism held by so many young people in NA and the EU? I had a friend tell me the other day that I couldn't be anti-racist if I wasn't anti-capitalist, because capitalism is by inherently racist. Ever since 2018 or so it seems as if anti-capitalism has become part of the mainstream progressive Western viewpoint, while I don't remember that bei…

Have you tried leaving home and touching grass? Because everything you‘ve wrote doesn’t make any sense.

Which part, specifically, confused you? Was it 'well-selected sample'? Was it the notion of anti-racism? Neither of these are terms I coined, but they're fairly well defined in my social groups. I'm happy to clarify any topics you're unfamiliar with.

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Interested in comments from anyone who lives in India or has experience/familiarity with it as to whether reality on the ground matches the rosy picture painted in the article.

Posted my anecdote elsewhere in this thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33510940

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Such an awesome accomplishment. Also, it’s interestingly a huge black eye to the CCP: news of this Indian accomplishment will be censored in China, because it proves that nations can progress without forced-sterilization/-abortion/-1-child-policy/authoritarianism/ etc.

Why do so many people on HN hate on China? What's your relationship with Chinese people in your personal life?

I just have an issue with the CCP and their apologists. That is primarily who people refer to when they say China. It is pretty common speech. Same when talking about America doing something, we refer to the US government primarily, not its people.

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And the USA is doing the same to other countries. It is a given that this happens, and will continue to happen. You measure how strong a democracy is by how well they can resist such campaigns. If some random Russian bots can trigger a coup in the strongest and richest country in the world then, well, that's on us.

“the US is doing the same to other countries” Source? “If some random Russian not can trigger a coup” It’s still an act of aggression regardless of whether the US is equipped to deal with it. While I agree that the US does lots of shitty things, we have way more checks and balances than our key enemies. For one, it is the people who elect those who represent us.

> “the US is doing the same to other countries”

> Source?

Not even hiding it: https://content.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,19960715,00.htm...

Re: India lifted 415M out of poverty in 15 years, says UN

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Why do so many people on HN hate on China? What's your relationship with Chinese people in your personal life?

I just have an issue with the CCP and their apologists. That is primarily who people refer to when they say China. It is pretty common speech. Same when talking about America doing something, we refer to the US government primarily, not its people.

The heros in the story of Chinas amazing numbers of people lifted out of poverty is Deng Xiaoping and his successors. They've been basically thrown out with Xi. So modern China is unfortunately on the totally wrong trajectory.

It's ok to say "China was going the right direction between years X and Y" without being an "apologist".

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Such an awesome accomplishment. Also, it’s interestingly a huge black eye to the CCP: news of this Indian accomplishment will be censored in China, because it proves that nations can progress without forced-sterilization/-abortion/-1-child-policy/authoritarianism/ etc.

The United Nations Development Programme announced it 20 days ago on their official WeChat account and the post is still up: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/JAY6_fef5htRqbnOQwnoFg

Also, re: "without forced-sterilization" https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-30040790

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Such an awesome accomplishment. Also, it’s interestingly a huge black eye to the CCP: news of this Indian accomplishment will be censored in China, because it proves that nations can progress without forced-sterilization/-abortion/-1-child-policy/authoritarianism/ etc.

Why do so many people on HN hate on China? What's your relationship with Chinese people in your personal life?

"Why do so many people hate brutal, authoritarian governments?"

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Why do so many people on HN hate on China? What's your relationship with Chinese people in your personal life?

Because China is the number one threat to democracy and the US. They also are responsible for stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of IP from the US every single year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_intellectual_pr... And masters at stealing R&D and tech from US companies for their own use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_spy_cases_in_t... https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chinese-hackers-to…

I don’t like the CCP, but in practice the US conservative movement is probably the biggest threat to democracy in the West today. They are spreading the idea that elections need not be respected and spread conspiracy theories people are eating up all over the world.

For instance when we started getting problems with vaccination of people in Norway it was not due to China but fake news and conspiracies pushed by the radical conservative movement in the US.

The US holds a special position in advancing and protecting democracy, but is itself turning into a liability. China is a concern but first priority has to be to fix American democracy before it drags the whole West into the mud.

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