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Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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In those situations, just download offline maps to use?

You assume that one knows that the place where you're going is beyond the reach of cellular service before one even goes there.

With apps like OsmAnd and Organic Maps, I can download the map for the entire country and navigate off it. Highly recommended — both on F-Droid.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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Every company starts as a "net taker" until they find their contribution niche, so I'm not concerned. Besides, the positive effect of more eyes seeing OSM and more companies caring about its quality cannot be understated. (I can point to dozens of examples of this.)

> more eyes seeing OSM and more companies caring about its quality cannot be understated. (I can point to dozens of examples of this.) I'd love to hear more about that

I doubt what I saw will really add to what Doctor_Fegg says in his talk. However, a few examples:

https://daylightmap.org is built by Meta (Facebook) to allow their maps to meet their quality needs consistently while still pulling and encouraging OSM updates. This unlocks OSM data for a large amount of sensitive corporations.

I personally have made quite a few edits on behalf of customers who pointed out errors in the map.

The popularity of OSM-based navigation apps has made it useful for people to download editing apps to ensure their locale is as up-to-date as possible (this is getting better and better every year).

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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It sounds like TT will be a net taker from OSM, I hope they contribute as much as they benefit, as otherwise it would sound like they're giving up on prop-mapping by cutting costs. It's a press release I suppose, but saying the world lacks an open platform, and processing to use such open platform, sounds a bit weird

That's the nice thing about shared resources, everyone can be a net taker, because all of them get everything and nobody contributes more than small fraction.

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Their revenue from 2009-2022 tells the story: https://companiesmarketcap.com/tomtom/revenue/

They’re still one of the major suppliers of car manufacturers for navigation software embedded in infotainment systems.

And they've figured out that's dead-but-alive, aka a terminal investment.

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For the youngens here on HN: TomTom was once one of the leading manufacturers of GPS navigation systems for cars - purchased as an accessory that was stuck to the wind screen. This was in a time before every car had a screen built in, and before everyone had a smart phone with Google Maps in their pocket. I guess that product is a prime example for becoming irrelevant by society progressing. I actually still use an o…

I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…

> something super basic that no one has ever done

Errr all maps apps do this.

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I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…

> something super basic that no one has ever done Errr all maps apps do this.

It's also important how they're doing this. GMaps in my car constantly fails to show anything useful (or even start navigation) because there's no signal in my underground garage.

Such a simple thing and yet TomTom can do it and Google can't.

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I have a modern car with a built-in satnav as well as Android Auto support, and yet I still use my TomTom 5000 - it's just better. Definitely better than crappy Google Maps, definitely better than volvo's built-in maps, and it's without any kind of comparison how much better it is than Apple Maps. You get in the car, it auto-selects the destination based on the patterns it learnt(so if you get in at 7am on a workday,…

Apple Maps has the feature you just described, and their maps either are TomTom or are better than TomTom.

I don't know, here in UK they just seem to be barren, with major roads still missing, they don't know about "no right/left turn" signs in places, they don't know about one-way streets......it's not a good system.

I don't know how it can be using TomTom's data if TomTom doesn't have any of the same issues.

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I find your post funny, since I'm regularly using TomTom on my Android phone because it has a better UI and some nicer car navigation features than Google Maps. Based on the number of downloads and TomTom's financials, I'm not even close to being alone. I've also seen it as a default navigation provider in many car brands so I find your bubble biased post pretty funny - and kinda sad, because we see a lot of those he…

Well, obviously TomTom is still in business but only because they adapted their original business model drastically. I think the original article is also along the same lines.

And that's good, choice and competition is good. I honestly don't get when people of HN got so hateful and dismissive towards market competition.

Re: TomTom’s new mapping platform and ecosystem

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> something super basic that no one has ever done Errr all maps apps do this.

It's also important how they're doing this. GMaps in my car constantly fails to show anything useful (or even start navigation) because there's no signal in my underground garage. Such a simple thing and yet TomTom can do it and Google can't.

My car's built-in navigation can use dead reckoning based on steering angle and wheel speed, so is still better than TomTom in this respect. I really think this person who is clinging to their old TomTom is a bit oblivious to what all the alternatives now do and how they do it better.
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