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Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by alwillis »

ezfe wrote: post #36
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

I'm updating for these features: better iMessage (editing / unsending / mark as unread), Shared iCloud Photo Library, duplicate detection in Photos, Continuity Camera, Weather app, multi-stop Maps routing

Continuity Camera

I’ve been on the betas all summer; Continuity Camera is probably the most Apple-like feature in Ventura. It seems almost magical in how it “just works”.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by cube2222 »

alin23 wrote: post #44
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything is only fast because of an index, right? How it catches all file writes to update that index near instantaneously, I have no idea.

Everything uses NTFS journaling as far as I know. I actually solved that by using the native macOS fsevents API which can watch the whole filesystem for changes, and I can instantly update the SQLite db I use for the index through that. The problem is actually enumerating and searching the whole database, that's the slow part. Right now I have over 5 million rows in it and passing the SELECT results to fzf is the slo…

The fsevents part is interesting, didn't know that!

To your point regarding the slowness - in that case it's not really acting as an index though, is it, if you're scanning the whole list and passing it to fzf?

A proper fuzzy text search index (I think elastic and similar engines have these built-in) should yield orders of magnitude better performance.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by behnamoh »

> The Weather and Clock apps come to Mac with all of the features users know and love from iPhone, and do things like check local forecasts, create alarms, set timers, and more.

And yet there is no Apple weather app for iPad!

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by kennend3 »

jedberg wrote: post #74
sbdaman wrote: post #47

"We've been putting the same 720p webcam in our laptops for 10 years so just go ahead and use your phone instead"

"We could increase the BOM cost putting a bigger camera in but the thickness of the laptop lid is so thin it would never be as good as the phone you most likely already own, so we made it easer for you to use that". It's all a matter of perspective. :) I love the ability to use my phone as a webcam.

Perspective really is everything.

I think that most would be surprised to see a company selling a laptop for $1700 (CAD) in 2022 with a 720 webcam

https://www.apple.com/ca/macbook-pro/

Doing this, then advising you can use your phone's camera seems like an ugly hack.

It is also really awkward to be on a conf call using your phone as a webcam, then needing your phone because something important has come up.

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by outsidetheparty »

sergiotapia wrote: post #42

I can't help but wonder how Steve Jobs would have flipped out if he saw something like this on his devices. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/product/availability/A...

I'm so confused by that photo. Are you supposed to just duct-tape your phone to the laptop?

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by alin23 »

selectodude wrote: post #49
alin23 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been testing Stage Manager since the first developer beta of Ventura and it did feel awkward, as it had no keyboard control, and I feel slower when pointing and clicking to switch apps. But after adding support for it in my rcmd app ( https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd ), and tuning yabai's grid a bit, I found it quite useful for my workflow. Here's a video on how I use Stage Manager with the keyboard shortcuts in rcm…

So nobody else has to waste time trying all of these codes - they're all burned up. Sorry folks :)

Added some more

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by alin23 »

flutas wrote: post #45
alin23 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been testing Stage Manager since the first developer beta of Ventura and it did feel awkward, as it had no keyboard control, and I feel slower when pointing and clicking to switch apps. But after adding support for it in my rcmd app ( https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd ), and tuning yabai's grid a bit, I found it quite useful for my workflow. Here's a video on how I use Stage Manager with the keyboard shortcuts in rcm…

To save everyone else: All the codes seem to have been redeemed.

Added some more

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by ValentineC »

alin23 wrote: post #28
galoisscobi wrote: post #9

I’m usually excited about macOS releases but this one is an underwhelming update and don’t see any reason to update any time soon. Stage manager seems like a half measure to introduce better window management in macOS and it doesn’t help that it doesn’t support a keyboard only workflow, from what I can tell from the demos. Coming from i3wm, I found Yabai to be an excellent keyboard-first window manager. I do wish som…

I've been testing Stage Manager since the first developer beta of Ventura and it did feel awkward, as it had no keyboard control, and I feel slower when pointing and clicking to switch apps. But after adding support for it in my rcmd app ( https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd ), and tuning yabai's grid a bit, I found it quite useful for my workflow. Here's a video on how I use Stage Manager with the keyboard shortcuts in rcm…

Managed to snag 36MWRHWF7TM7. Thanks for the giveaway!

Re: macOS Ventura is now available

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Post by alwillis »

sramsay wrote: post #50
rcarmo wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I certainly hope the command-line tools are up to date. Otherwise upgrading brew and all its ecosystem might be somewhat of a pain.

Right now, homebrew is refusing to compile packages from source: Error: Your Xcode (14.0.1) is too outdated. Please update to Xcode 14.1 (or delete it). Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

I’ve been running Homebrew on Ventura beta all summer; if you don’t want to install the entire colossal Xcode 14.1, you probably just need the latest command line tools [1].

[1]: https://download.developer.apple.com/Developer_Tools/Command...

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