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Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#81

how is SF still so valuable if so much is going wrong

It is the momentum from last 30 years of innovation in SV/SFBA. Measuring current state of wealth is not a good indicator, you need to look at the rate of change and the acceleration of people moving out of bay area.

You can't just look at a snapshot in time.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#82
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What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

As a Boston resident I haven’t had any incidents of theft or violence in 10 years. I walk around with my toddler without issue.

Boston has a higher murder rate and overall violent crime rate than San Francisco, as do most large cities.

San Francisco's problem is rampant property crime: Property crime is still real crime and harms people mentally... but it also means SF is physically safer than many cities that have less overall crime rates, because of their higher violent crime rates.

Since it's often beneficial to an agenda to conflate the two so you'll always see something like:

"San Franciscans face about a 1-in-16 chance each year of being a victim of property or violent crime"

(https://www.hoover.org/research/why-san-francisco-nearly-mos...)

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#85

$1.7m toilet. All San Franciscans that pay tax have been victims of theft!

What about $18.2 million for 260 tents? That's ~$5,000 a month per tent, which is more than I paid for my apartment in downtown SF. https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/S-F-officials-w... It's just plain corruption, and it won't stop until voters make it stop.

It's still cheaper than incarceration, which apparently costs $64K in 2015[0].

[0] https://www.vera.org/publications/price-of-prisons-2015-stat...

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#86

It's just part and parcel of living in a big city.

I’ve lived in NYC for 12 years. I’ve never even had a package stolen. Luck is involved only to a certain degree.

I think this might be a joke based on https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3801018/Terror-atta...

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#87
post #70

What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

I don’t think I’ve had any theft incidents in many years in Seattle.

My car was broken into three times in Seattle over part 5 years, two times in Ballard and once in West Seattle.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

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San Francisco: We're Totally Surprised That Failure to Enforce Laws Leads to Lawlessness

I've lived in several cities, and they all share in common police's complete unwillingness to investigate petty theft. Businesses seem to have no problem, but private citizens just aren't a high priority. I realize San Francisco has wider issues with crime enforcement, but petty theft is under-investigated and enforced in many places unfortunately.

Re: Nearly Half of San Franciscans Have Been Victims of Theft, New Poll Says

#90

What is the rate for other big cities? Is this a lot higher than usual, or only a little higher? The thing is that people steal things everywhere. Bikes. Cigarette lighters. Money left out. Scam items off Amazon or eBay is a form of theft. Your beer at parties. Lawn gnomes. I don’t know many people anywhere who haven’t had something stolen from them at some point, so I’m not sure what this is saying

I would be surprised if many less half of people haven’t had something stolen at some point, but this survey is just about the last five years.
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