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Starlink Aviation
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Re: Starlink Aviation
#82It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at or…
is it non-refundable?
It's only a fully refundable $150 deposit until your terminal is actually ready to ship.
Assuming we're talking about fixed address residential service here and not the RV de-prioritized service which anyone can order at any time.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#83Low latency for Video Calls? Sure, great on private charter jets where it’s you or a couple of people who know each other. Also, generally in favour of the march of technology, so I love this. Do Not Ever want on a flight where I’m sitting beside some random ass stranger who will chat or video chat to whoever at the top of their voice while I’m trying to relax.
How is this so much more annoying to you than two people who know each other sitting next to you and talking or possibly as weird as this is gonna sound like maybe they were not completely anti-social people and just met and started talking?
Because when strangers start chatting next to you, you can join the conversation and at least aren't relegated to listening to one side of it.
Talking to new people in public is social. Talking on the phone in public is antisocial.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#84It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at or…
Having been a Tesla owner for a decade, give or take, I think the motto for Musk's companies may as well be "over promise and under deliver"
Re: Starlink Aviation
#85Not sure who this is aimed at, the existing inflight wifi solutions powered by two satellites (viasat) are sufficient for tasks that don't require low latency.
but how else can billionaires watch life porn shows in their private jets when they are flying the 10th time a week between continents?
Okay maybe that was too snarky.
It's for more low latency solution's and/or more bandwidth. It also competes with existing solutions because why shouldn't they compete in a field where they can compete and make money.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
It says right on the front page: "High-speed, low-latency, in-flight internet with connectivity across the globe. $12,500/mo-$25,000/mo with a one-time hardware cost of $150,000. Reserve now with deliveries starting in 2023."
Vs “from $2795 per month” for Viasat. https://go.viasat.com/BAV-Viasat-Select-Business-Jet-WiFi.ht...
> Vs “from $2795 per month” for Viasat.
... if you're ok being limited to 15 GB per month.
Practically, the offerings are $10k for regional or $14k for global for the no cap plans.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#87It would be nice if Starlink could honour their existing obligations as a priority first. I have reserved Starlink here in Canada nearly two years ago and received an email advising it's now been pushed to summer 2023. That's three years of waiting. I was also emailed last year advising the monthly cost has increased and so has the dish itself. Shouldn't providing down payment legally guarantee to buy a service at or…
Same with everything they do it seems. I put in an order for solar panels from Tesla in March and the install date is now April 2023.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://www.netjets.com/en-gb/on-board-wi-fi-netjets-fleet Compare to what’s currently available to jet charter. StarLink’s product is currently priced (monthly) around an hour or two of flight time, depending on airframe class. > Wi-Fi is currently available in the Phenom 300, Citation Latitude, Challenger 350 and Global 6000. > The first three models have a satellite-based connectivity with a shared bandwidth going…
Viasat Global Unlimited is $14,000/mo. I'm sure Starlink will be better in some way, but it's almost double...
> I'm sure Starlink will be better in some way, but it's almost double...
The most important difference is that Viasat uses a couple of GEO satellites where Starlink uses a massive swarm of LEO satellites.
Viasat's satellites are flying just short of 35,800 kilometers over the equator, which means that your absolute best case scenario user standing right next to a gateway, both directly under the satellite, bare minimum latency connecting to an internet server is almost a full 500 milliseconds. Users not close to the equator can add a fair bit more.
Starlink's satellites are flying around 550 kilometers over basically everywhere with 53 degrees of the equator, so anyone who has a gateway close enough to not need to use the inter-satellite link can get 20-40 millisecond latency to the internet in real world usage.
They only recently enabled end user access to inter-satellite links so I haven't seen any real world tests on that but it could be a lot worse than single-hop while still beating GEO.
Re: Starlink Aviation
#89Would this be good for remote pilots flying fighter jets, or has that been adequately serviced by military tech?
Re: Starlink Aviation
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
> a problem left to etiquette I fly regularly, and it will absolutely become a problem on day 1.
This seems so backwards to me, why would you want other people to behave the way you want them to when you can just put in earplugs, noise cancelling headphones, have self control and not get annoyed, etc etc. It seems crazy to me that people consider something so minor to be uncouth or whatever. I think in general the onus to take care of something should be on the person getting annoyed and only until you've exhaus…
>"This seems so backwards to me, why would you want other people to behave the way you want them to when you can just put in earplugs, noise cancelling headphones, have self control and not get annoyed, etc etc."
Because you are in a captive environment at increasingly close quarters on increasingly fuller flights. "Live and let live" is a great philosophy but flying coach today is not the same level of "shared public space" as say walking on a city sidewalk or sitting in a park.