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Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by replyifuagree »

girvo wrote: post #78
Ensorceled wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish it was that easy! You are missing the 'triage' state after the ticket is opened, the 'review' state after priority, and the 'approval required' state after moving to backlog, sprint and fixed.

Plus all the other steps in the custom workflow some upper management spent weeks putting in place without speaking to the actual workers who need to follow it.

Yeah, this is the real problem. Allowing non-technical managers to dabble in the SDLC is Jira's greatest sin.

Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by croutonwagon »

kuroguro wrote: post #19

Currently getting $0/mo for all plans lol I guess someone is panicking and trying to fix it live

"Fix it live" or "Fix it in production" is basically JIRA's entire MO.

I get that move fast and break things is supposed to, in the end, ensure better code, better debugging and ultimately a better experience.

But the way JIRA does it (And a few other companies) is, quite frankly, painful to see, even on the sidelines.

Like that time they just straight locked folks out of their tenants if their tenant name started with number or something. They do thing, often without any aux plans to revert. Its pants on head crazy imho. How key executives listed in their stock portfolio pages didnt lose their jobs over that is beyond me.

https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/atlassian-jira-outage-wee...

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/ongoing-atl...

Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by viridian »

Haydos585x2 wrote: post #77
stinos wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say first try for yourself instead. I have, for over a decade, and while it's pretty slow and has some annoyances: it's not quite bad enough to hate for me, the alternatives aren't that much better and mostly have other annoyances, and it can get the job done.

Jira is much better than a lot of similar products and people in this post seem to think that their dislike of their job is caused by their tools and not crappy PM process.

Jira's main problem is that for most developers, this enormous piece of enterprise software is strictly inferior to a swimlane app they could build in a week. Lots of features in there for the benefit of managers and PMs that ultimately amount to more administrative work and process for developers.

Some places it's bad enough that Jira is used to appease the people with the purse strings, and the inputs have no bearing on reality at any given moment, while all the real workflows are tracked using paper note cards pinned to a cork posterboard that sits on Joe's desk behind his monitors.

Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by girvo »

replyifuagree wrote: post #81
girvo wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus all the other steps in the custom workflow some upper management spent weeks putting in place without speaking to the actual workers who need to follow it.

Yeah, this is the real problem. Allowing non-technical managers to dabble in the SDLC is Jira's greatest sin.

Exactly. Though I'm certain that is also partly responsible for Jira's success in terms of B2B market penetration...

Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

Dionakra wrote: post #61

Now someone should open a Jira ticket, refine the task, estimate it, define its priority, push it to the backlog and maybe the next sprint (if it is important enough), someone will be assigned, checking all the DoD and DoR boxes, submit a PR, getting it approved and then it will be fixed.

This is impossible.

It takes 247 years to open the form to fill the details for the ticket.

Re: Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month

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Post by wodenokoto »

imroot wrote: post #57
wodenokoto wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are all sorts of things in law about “reasonable persons” and contracts needs to be beneficial for both parties. I am sure this would not be binding.

If you've ever used JIRA, I'd say getting paid to use their software is beneficial for both parties...

I think everyone who uses Jira gets paid to do so and their employer pays both atlassian and the user …
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