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Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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I tried out self hosting on my $5/mo VPS and found it much easier than expected. https://jeskin.net/blog/self-hosting-git-with-stagit/

Can't you just run gitlab or whatever else out of a container in 5 seconds nowadays? Map a single volume and you are likely done. Its not that it's hard to self host that I choose to use third party git services (its clearly not!), it's just that the benefits of self hosting a git repository are increasingly few unless you have strict security requirements etc etc, and the free options are so good now. Running self h…

no, it's too bloaty to run it longer than the mentioned 5 seconds in good faith to not deplete the biosphere with bloat like that.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

#82

Slightly off topic, but wtf happened to sourceforge? A decade ago it was _the_ place to host open source projects. How did they lose almost all of the market share to GitHub?

Github makes money from private repo subscriptions, Sourceforge was ad based. Also Github focuses on source code hosting, a lot / most Sourceforge projects just hosted the release files to a project.

The quality of the site went down hill, even with ads showing download buttons trying to trick the user.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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The privacy policy is not compliant from what I see. I still love the mission but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth - if one makes privacy a marketing point then at least the privacy policy should be compliant. One example missing in the privacy policy is information regarding "the existence of the right to request from the controller access to and rectification or erasure of personal data or restriction of proc…

Consider filing an issue in https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org. I had an data protection issue earlier and emailed them (from Impressum) and they dealt with it really well.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Codeberg source https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/gitea Codeberg is a fork of Gitea https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea which curiously uses GitHub for hosting.

Didn't even change the readme, it seems.

*EDIT* https://codeberg.org/

I'm guessing they're just maintaining their own copy and Codeberg is more about the service rather than being another git hosting project.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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The problem is that GitHub is so endemic, and useful for open source projects that simply need the traction/eyeballs.

I wish GitHub: - had scoped labels ala. GitLab. Project custom fields _almost_ get there but they must be more visible/accessible/filterable via 'basic' issue lists. - allowed longer label descriptions, they should double the 100 character limit - and allow 4-byte Unicode... - had wider milestone scoping

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Here is a list of free Git hosting services for open source software: • https://github.com/ • https://gitlab.com/ • https://bitbucket.org/ • https://codeberg.org/ (As per the linked article) • https://sr.ht/ (Sourcehut) Codeberg and Sourcehut appear to use open source code for their web page backend; the others seem to use proprietary software (in the case of GitLab, there is a free version, but gitlab.com also uses…

Keybase also has support for hosting Git repos: https://book.keybase.io/git

I used to use Keybase for my dotfiles repo but I thought Keybase was on their way out since being bought?

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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I really don't get why do every org do this. A simple mail about the takedown to the owner with few lines explaining the situation shouldn't be difficult, and I would say it is the best ROI to prevent PR damage like this.

Any service known for not proactively removing content will be overburdened as users from other services who submit 'complaint-generating' content will flock to your service. When people who submit these complaints don't feel like you acquiesced in their favor they will assemble and call you out. Your service will be known as a safe harbor for groups of ill repute and eventually you may be forced to shutter the servi…

In this particular case - at least from the meager scraps of information I can gather - Wikiless was taken down on trademark infringement concerns, and the creator hasn't had the time to do the necessary modifications to properly debrand their fork.

The general cycle of "abusive users look for platforms that look the other way, while non-abusive users insist on platforms that don't" still applies. But the concern is less "Nazi[0] bars" and more "The Pirate Bay".

[0] FWIW I do not believe that it is possible to censor a Nazi.

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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I'd like to plug self-hosting via Gitea. I have it running on a Raspberry Pi Zero(!) and it works really well[0]. I no longer star projects on GitHub: instead, I mirror them onto my Gitea server which periodically syncs in changes with a cadence of my choosing[1]. If a project I depend on ever gets deleted from GitHub, I'll have a reasonably up-to-date copy.

If you have a Pi in a drawer somewhere, or an underutilized 512MB VPS, using it to self-host a Gitea instance is worthwhile!

0.Using SQLite as the data store.

1. Alternatively, you can use your Gitea instance as the primary, and have it push changes to other git servers like GitHub or Gitlab

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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Slightly off topic, but wtf happened to sourceforge? A decade ago it was _the_ place to host open source projects. How did they lose almost all of the market share to GitHub?

they got caught packaging installers with adware / bloatware. Lots of projects / people moved away from it. After the backlash they reversed the policy but the damage was done at that point already.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/419579/new-sourceforge-owner...

Re: Codeberg: A GitHub alternative from Europe

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any service known for not proactively removing content will be overburdened as users from other services who submit 'complaint-generating' content will flock to your service. When people who submit these complaints don't feel like you acquiesced in their favor they will assemble and call you out. Your service will be known as a safe harbor for groups of ill repute and eventually you may be forced to shutter the servi…

In this particular case - at least from the meager scraps of information I can gather - Wikiless was taken down on trademark infringement concerns, and the creator hasn't had the time to do the necessary modifications to properly debrand their fork. The general cycle of "abusive users look for platforms that look the other way, while non-abusive users insist on platforms that don't" still applies. But the concern is…

a) They just turned the page into a 404, without any notice about what had happened to the repo.

b) They did not notify the repo owner, and took several days to respond.

c) I realize that it's a relatively new service, and they may not have a lot of experience dealing with this type of thing

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