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Similar robots are built every year in colleges around the globe by jr robotics teams. Walking robots have been around for 25 plus years. There was zero to be impressed about. Walking robots are to robotics as hello world is to programming.

It was not simply programmed to walk, it was also using computer vision to decide where to walk too

It looked like a very crude depth occupancy model.

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He's literally talking about eliminating jobs from the Tesla factory in Fremont. And then he takes a further step and discusses in eliminating all manual labor. I think it's reasonable to consider the chance a fully mobile non-human humanoid will actually disrupt labor more so than the invention of a shopping cart. I'm talking about marginalized people who are under educated and have very good reason to believe that…

If you're in tech and worried about job losses, you may want to look at how history has literally done this 100 times in the past to numerous industries. Bringing race into this is nonsense. If the robots are taking jobs, do you think they care what color someone is? They don't. And it's literally going to come for everyone's current job. Which is a good thing, so long as we have an economic system that evolves along…

I have and am!

I argue that different races are impacted differently by different technology disruptors.

Specifically when a robot replaces a manual labor job in a warehouse in Fremont then I believe that's more likely to impact a black or brown human.

Eliminating poverty won't come around for a long time. Just because there's cheaper labor does not mean that humans who are displaced by that cheap labor are going to somehow get free money.

Bonus diversity stats for Fremont: "Tesla publishes its first diversity report, here are the key numbers" https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/12/04/tesla-publishes-its-firs...

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He's literally talking about eliminating jobs from the Tesla factory in Fremont. And then he takes a further step and discusses in eliminating all manual labor. I think it's reasonable to consider the chance a fully mobile non-human humanoid will actually disrupt labor more so than the invention of a shopping cart. I'm talking about marginalized people who are under educated and have very good reason to believe that…

People have been making the same argument for 300 years with every technological innovation. Literally no invention, not this robot by Tesla certainly, would ever have even 5% of the impact the tracks and other farm tools had.

I think the argument that technology disrupts is an easy one to make. The impact of a fully ambulatory robot could be enormous.

So I think it's worthwhile to consider the ethical impact, if the projected success of this robot comes true.

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I am curious, if they indeed used first principle thinking in order to design a robot that has to be able to replace human labor / jobs, why the robot needs to have 28 actuators and look and function exactly like a humanoid? It seems like copying exact human form, mobility, and movement would almost be arbitrary, and not really necessary. Anyone else have an informed idea as to why that wanted to so precisely copy th…

I guess it's designed to fit in environments designed for humans like homes and offices.

Probably there is a bit of "too ambitious, and romantic" going on too.

I see their reasoning as something like that they have a lot of batteries motors processors and AI software lying around from doing cars. It would be kinda fun for a few engineers to try to put those bits in humanoid robot form. Who knows maybe it'll work, maybe it'll help the stock price. There isn't that much cost as they had most of the resources already.

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Because Elon is snakes oil salesman, who thinks he’s smartest and most important human in the history. He also happens to have some very successful products, that his fan base uses to silence any criticism.

Anyone who uses the word “snake oil salesman” to describe Elon Musk is delusional and has gone way too deep down the anti-Elon rabbit hole.

Do you at least get paid for this?

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Anyone who uses the word “snake oil salesman” to describe Elon Musk is delusional and has gone way too deep down the anti-Elon rabbit hole.

Do you at least get paid for this?

Kind of actually. 10x’ed my net worth since 2019 with TSLA stock. It pays when you can see through the BS fud like your statements.

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It was not simply programmed to walk, it was also using computer vision to decide where to walk too

It looked like a very crude depth occupancy model.

>very crude depth occupancy model

Same as Tesla's FSD and 100% vision based. Is it crude too? I thought it was state of the art…

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The Tesla Robot was underwhelming. I appreciate the engineers on stage highlighting their work, but it all felt a generation behind Boston Dynamic’s efforts.

In a way. The motion was not spectacular like Boston Dynamics. But any walking robot especially at that height and size is a significant engineering achievement. And they have been working on it for months rather than years. And the system is entirely electric unlike Boston Dynamics. The last demo was a person in a suit. Your expectations were unrealistic if you are not impressed.

Atlas is also electric. An electric motor tied to a gear pump presumably.

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It was underwhelming, but it's to be expected for 1 year of work. This is also an electric motor robot vs pneumatic actuators from BD.

Why are electric motors better? Excavators etc use hydrolics, presumably for a reason. I suppose if you want dexterity? But then you'd lose load carrying?

Did you see the part where the single Tesla actuator was lifting the piano up and down?
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