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USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

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Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

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This is still ridiculous. The USB certified logo should be one image, then a similar sized wattage and Gbps number displayed next to it. The pertinent information is still too tiny. The cables themselves are still way too easy to mix up. Connector's inner plastic should have different colors

They could introduce color coded rings like resistors have.

Or UV-Lights!

https://xkcd.com/2507/

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#82
post #37
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

USB-rainbow? It's literally not USB. I am USB-#ff33ff. How is it Universal?

More like: First ring: Red: Hi-Speed Yellow: 5 Gbps Green: 20 Gbps Blue: 40 Gbps Black: charging only Second ring: Orange: 60 W Cyan: 240 W Black: data only Plus print the values on the rings in black font, for the colorblind.

I recall coming across the color guide for the various features, like blue for USB3, and red for… power delivery, maybe?

But then one day I was on AliExpress or Alibaba or something and seeing that you could just buy cables from some manufacturer with whatever color you wanted. And I lost faith in the reliability of color id for cables.

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#83

At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.

> - USB Crypto.com

Still better than the Washington Nationals' Terra/Luna branding. [1] But like, not much.

[1] https://blockworks.co/unparalleled-luxury-nationals-still-pi...

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#84
post #78

At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.

Stop giving them ideas straight out of Idiocracy sobs in mountain dew

Welcome to Best Buy, I love you.

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#85

At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.

This is a really stupid comment and you should probably delete it. What they've done here is pretty close to what I've been wanting. They're now advertising the port speed, which is all anyone cares about. They're not advertising meaningless version numbers anymore. The only improvement I could offer now is to advertise the speed specifically. What they are labeling as

40gb

20gb

10gb

5gb

is in actuality

More like

2x 20gb

2x 10gb

1x 10gb

2x 5gb

1x 5gb

Just specify exactly what the port/cable does. That's all you need to do. Version numbers mean nothing to me.

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#86
post #71

This part is so exciting: > it’ll now also have to list a charging speed like 60W or 240W. Ah, no more trying to do determine what dielectric the cable is using: they’ll label the cable with how fast the charge can propagate through the cable. A significant blow for consumer choice!

It's even worse. A 20W USB-PD charger might indeed put out 20W, but not at the voltage your device needs . It might put out 20W at one voltage, but only 10W at another. The whole thing is a goddamn mess, and it's a mess because the alliance is a cartel, not an actually useful technical standards group. They're a bunch of fat swine contributing little to nothing but extorting licensing fees from everyone.

Oh, but USB-PD 3.0 with PPS got rid of fixed profiles. Not the charger and chargee negotiate a voltage between 3.3 and 20V.

I wonder how they'll screw up that branding...

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

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post #85

At this point USB might as well auction their branding rights like sports stadiums: - USB Coke Zero - USB House of Dragon streaming exclusively on HBO - USB Crypto.com Consumers, Devices, and cables could continue ignoring it all but at least the consortium could have a new revenue stream.

This is a really stupid comment and you should probably delete it. What they've done here is pretty close to what I've been wanting. They're now advertising the port speed, which is all anyone cares about. They're not advertising meaningless version numbers anymore. The only improvement I could offer now is to advertise the speed specifically. What they are labeling as 40gb 20gb 10gb 5gb is in actuality More like 2x…

Someone here doesn't understand jokes.

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#89
post #71

This part is so exciting: > it’ll now also have to list a charging speed like 60W or 240W. Ah, no more trying to do determine what dielectric the cable is using: they’ll label the cable with how fast the charge can propagate through the cable. A significant blow for consumer choice!

It's even worse. A 20W USB-PD charger might indeed put out 20W, but not at the voltage your device needs . It might put out 20W at one voltage, but only 10W at another. The whole thing is a goddamn mess, and it's a mess because the alliance is a cartel, not an actually useful technical standards group. They're a bunch of fat swine contributing little to nothing but extorting licensing fees from everyone.

I only remember a couple of gross violations, both in the early days: apple macbook charger and the Nintendo switch.

I think things have quieted down since. Of course that is due to the limited choice in chipsets (cartel? Or just bc nobody wants to design a complex, low margin part?). But nowadays dodgy mfrs can compete on who can electrocute or set alight the customer to save a couple of pennies, but the protocol conformance will be outsourced.

Re: USB kills off SuperSpeed branding

#90
post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's even worse. A 20W USB-PD charger might indeed put out 20W, but not at the voltage your device needs . It might put out 20W at one voltage, but only 10W at another. The whole thing is a goddamn mess, and it's a mess because the alliance is a cartel, not an actually useful technical standards group. They're a bunch of fat swine contributing little to nothing but extorting licensing fees from everyone.

Oh, but USB-PD 3.0 with PPS got rid of fixed profiles. Not the charger and chargee negotiate a voltage between 3.3 and 20V. I wonder how they'll screw up that branding...

From the article they just label the maximum power, which the author called “speed”.
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